hello all, i am a noob here, i have the oportunity to purchase a 1989 camaro with the 1LE option, aswell as the other options that the 1LE deletes, like A/C and the bose stereo, power windows, ect the car is all original with 125,000 miles on it. i have a procharger in my garage and have been looking for a fourth gen LT1 or LS1 to blow and build, but this one has cought my eye. for the most part a like the 3rd gens but i don't like the fact that i cant get a "regular" one with a V8 and a manual. what i am asking is, what is this car worth and would it be a good car to build up or would i want to leave it all stock and hold on to it? could this be a collectible? i know they made 111 of them, that seems rare to me but like i said i am a noob..so what do i know.

thanks for any help you can give me.


Partial list of RPO codes on this car: 1AY: VEHICLE WAS CUSTOM BUILT PER DEALER STOCK ORDER, FE2: SUSPENSION SYSTEM, RIDE HANDLING, GM3: AXLE REAR, 3.45 RATIO, G80: AXLE POSI-TRACTION, LIMITED SLIP, G92: AXLE REAR RATIO, PERFORMANCE (BORG WARNER), J65: BRAKE SYSTEM, POWER FOUR WHEEL DISC, K68: 105 AMP ALTERNATOR, MK6: TRANSMISSION, MANUAL 5 SPD. BORG WARNER, 2.95 1ST, O/D, MM5: MERCHANDISED TRANS, MAN 5 SPD PROVISIONS, NA5: EMISSION SYSTEM, FEDERAL, TIER O, NP5: LEATHER WRAPPED, STEERING WHEEL, SHIFT ****, N10: EXHAUST SYSTEM DUAL, N64: WHEEL AND TIRE, SPARE, SPACE SAVER, ALUMINUM, N96: WHEEL, 16 X 8, CAST ALUMINUM, QLC: TIRE ALL, P245/50ZR15/N BL R/PE ST TL HW4, TT4: HEADLAMPS, HALOGEN, 4, T93: TAIL AND STOP LAMP, SMOKED, T96: LAMP, FOG, UB3: CLUSTER, INST, OIL, COOL, TEMP, VOLTS, RIP, ODOM, TACH, UQ1: RADIO PROVISIONS FOR STEREO, UQ4: SPEAKER SYSTEM, BOSE, 4, UU8: RADIO, STEREO, DELCO BOSE CLOCK SEED/SCAN, Z28: MERCHANDISED PACKAGE, SPECIAL PERFORMANCE, 1SD: OPTION PACKAGE 04, 6DB: SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, FRONT, LEFT HAND, 7DB: SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, FRONT, RIGHT HAND, 8NN: SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, REAR, LEFT HAND, 9NN: SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, REAR, RIGHT HAND, LB9: ENGINE, GAS, 8 CYL, 5.0L, TPI, HO 225HP.

 

Collectible? Yes! Is it original numbers matching? Rust? Does it have a cage (or did it?). ...you will see holes in the interior panels or from under the car.


Since it has power doo-dads its probably a Players car (RPO code R7U.?). The 89's also have 1LE.

There's a sticky post at the top of the History and Restoration thread and you can go to: www.playerschallengeseries.ca for more info.

IMO you should keep it original or you might as well buy a run of the mill third gen to modify. Only 76 of the 111 were players cars.

Good find!

Greg

 

1LE cars could be had with alot of options except AC.

It's a myth they were all or had to be, stripper cars.

 

there is very little rust on the car, and we are in the PNW. there is a scratch/ ding above the letf headlights. i couldn't tell if it ever had a roll cage, i didn't know to look either. where did the cage come down in the rear? flat on the deck or on the "shoulders" on the sides of the deck?

its is all numbers matching.

 

For 89 the US versions were strippers with out power options. It wasn't until 91/92 that you could order the kitchen sink and 1LE.

 

Nice find! Be sure to post pics.

I agree with t_towner, this is too rare of a car to modify. You can always find a more commonly equipped IROC to hop up.

 

what do you guys think its worth?

 

You haven't really given us enough to put a price on it. Original paint? Original drivetrain? Was it raced and if so, by whom? How bad really is the rust? Owner documentation? Does it have R7U?

I'd say $2,500 to $7,500ish is the range.

Greg

 

To give you an estimate of its value, first you have to know for sure if its a 1LE or a players camaro. Look at the RPO codes to be sure then let us know.

 

if it truly is a 1le its worth a lot wasnt 89 the lowest production next to 90 I know where theres a 90 1LE sitting all taken apart but the guy refuses to sell I have tried

 

it has all the options for a 1LE but i don't see the code.. remember i am a noob, not with autos but with this stuff.



this is all the damage it has, the clear coat isn't good either.

 

I don't see 1LE thus it can't be a 1LE, looks like a LB9, 5 speed Iroc with performance suspension options as well as G92. Otherwise it would have to have 1LE on that sticker to be a true 1LE car.

 

does it have all the 1LE options?

 

Here are some differences.
Then the 1LE performance package was installed consisting of:

• Fog lamp delete Aluminum driveshaft (JG1) Performance exhaust system (N10) (dual catalytic converters) Special deflected disc shocks Aluminum spare wheel with smaller spare tire (N64) Larger (11.86 inch) front rotors with Girlock or PBR Australian built HD front dual piston aluminum calipers Special swinging fuel pickup in gas tank and special 18 gallon baffled fuel tank for fuel pickup down to .5 gallon reserve to prevent fuel starvation in hard cornering.
• Some came with special 16x8 light alloy mesh wheels. (XWL)

 

hmm i guess that means i can install my procharger...

 

A LB9 305 TPI, 5-speed, G92 car is still one of the more desirable of the non-special or limited production 3rd-gens. I wouldn't do any mods that can't be easily reversed. It's going to be one of the 3rd-gens that is worth some money in the future. Clean low mileage examples with those options are already bringing pretty good money.

 

Does it even have the big front brakes.Thats the first thing to look for.Judgeing by that pic i say no.Two options would cause some major 1LE features to be deleted by GM.One was AC the other was fog lamps.Many buyers marked the 1LE option(or G92) on the order sheet & then f#*ked themselves out of a true 1LE by optioning AC &/or fog lamps.All other options would not cause this.

 

I don't see the 1le or au4 players code, so I don't think it was a player's car,but nice car anyways. It also has the fog lamps in it, on a 1le they were deleted.

 

Just an FYI that 2 of the 4 1988 1LE cars had fog lights!

 

Unfortunately it is not a 1LE, however it appears to be a nicely equipped IROC. It does have the Go-fast goodies like the JG1 (Alum Drive shaft) and the G92 Performance Axel, with Posi, 3.45 Ratio etc.

The biggest difference between the 1LE and non-1LE car is the 1LE got the Larger FRONT brakes (1989+) and they got a special Gas tank that had baffles so that the pump would not go dry as fast, basically it allowed the car to suck more fuel from the tank. 1LE's also got special Struts and shocks, Pretty much about it.

1LE's are really cool cars, I think some of them had special spec'd engines, probably extra attention to fit, and balance. Beyond that they are not significantly faster than a regular non-1LE car if you pulled the parts from a non-1LE and make them weigh the same performance would be very similar.

I hope that helps...

John

 

it does help thanks for all the info!