chazman

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I've seen two styles on our cars.

The hex pattern pads:


And the older style looking pads:



All of my cars have the hexagon pattern pads and were all built at Van Nuys. Anyone have info on which cars got what and why?

gt4373

I've Only Seen The Hex Type,The GM Factory Replacement I Have On My Clutch Pedal Is Similar To The Old Style.

scottmoyer

1987 Van Nuys car.



I know the 1989 IROC-Z had the honey comb design with the curved edge gas pedal. I guess we just need to check to see if this was another 88+ change.

Update...I went through some photos of 1988 cars and see the honeycomb pattern and curved gas pedal. Another 88+ design.

chazman

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Both my '85 and '83 have the honey comb pattern.

scottmoyer

There's an 87 Norwood car on ebay that you can see have the pedals as mine. So we know that both Norwood and Van Nuys had the same pedals in '87.

It looks like 82-86 all had the honeycomb pedals. I wonder why '87 was different.

chazman

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Yeah, I thought it might have been a Norwood vs Van Nuys thing, but guess not.

StevenB L98/LS1

I think my brake pad was changed out by the original owner, mine has the disc brake writing pad on my 91 T/A and all other GTAs and T/A from 88/92 i've seen have been the honeycomb type regardless if it had drum or disc rear brakes. But my gas pad is like the 88/92 style.

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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My 87 IROC-Z has the lined Disc Brake pedals and my 89 RS with drums has the honeycombs. Both are Van Nuys cars.

chazman

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Looks like there is some connection with '87s as Scott mentioned.

Greg '85 T/A

My '85 has the lined brake pad.

Stuart S

My Norwood '87 (TA) has the lines w/logo like scottmoyer

My '89 GTA has the honeycomb

whyt86roc

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My 92 RS has the Hex style pads.. I'm wondering if they didn't change the design of them around the 90 models??

Duane's 91 Z/28

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Fleabay sells the pedal pads if anyone needs one...like I do.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-Pedal-Pad-14038638-/230590883457?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1991%7CModel%3ACamaro&hash=item35b049a681&vxp=mtr

chazman

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So much for the '87 connection. My '85, BTW, has the honey comb pattern.

Stuart S

Is your 85 a Van Nuys or a Norwood car?

chazman

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Van Nuys.

Stuart S

Does anyone have a Norwood car with the hex pads?

That may be the difference... Over the years I have had 5 thirdgens...

'86 Norwood IROC (sold) - no hex - auto, 4 wheel discs, LG4
'87 Norwood TA (still have) - no hex - auto, drum rear, LB9
'87 Norwood TA (sold) - no hex - auto, drum rear, LG4
'89 Van Nuys GTA (sold) - had hex - auto, 4 wheel disc, L98
'89 Van Nuys GTA (still have) - has hex - auto, 4 wheel disc, L98

gt4373

Mine's Norwood.

TTOP350

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All my cars are 89 and up,
all honeycomb,
disc/drum auto 3cars,
disc/disc 5spd 1car,
disc/disc auto 7cars.

chazman

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Here's what I think...

I *think* that the honeycomb pads are standard for all 3rd gens from '82-'92, from both Norwood and Van Nuys. The other ones with lines I'm guessing, were in the parts chain, and were either used to fill in gaps in supply, or someone simply decided to use up that stock pile of parts during '85-'87. LOTS of '87s with them, it would appear.

Just my theory.....

gt4373

I Think You May Be Right,I Checked My Records I Bought This Replacement Pad In 2004,I Remember The GM Parts Man Saying The Honeycomb Was Superseded With The Lined Type.

scottmoyer

I think you have a replaced pad. What is your gas pedal style. They should match.

I have seen replacement pads that have the honeycomb pattern for autos and I found the lined pads for manual cars. I have not been able to locate lined brake pads for the auto cars. BTW, for anyone researching, my car is a Van Nuys car.

Greg '85 T/A

Who would have replaced it? I didn't. I bought the car new.

Willie

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I read somewhere, probably about ten years ago, that the lined pads were a one year only design, 1987. My 1987 Z28 convertible has lined pads.

chazman

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I does seem like all of the '87s have them.

TTOP350

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The lined pedals were also used in 1st and 2nd gen cars but if memory serves me correctly, the gas pedal had horizontal lines that went top to bottom instead of just having that little lower section.

JT

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Is this a difference between Camaros and Firebirds? From what I've seen, every 1987 and older Trans Am had the lined pads while 1988 and newer Trans Am had the honeycomb design.

Here's a screen grab from Knight Rider in 1983 showing the lined pedals on their Trans Am. While the car was obviously modified, I doubt they'd change the pedals from honeycomb to the lined for the show.

TTOP350

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I thought the pedals in birds went from lines to honeycomb in 85 with the dash upgrade? Just a thought, I sure don't know, don't look at the pedals much.

Stuart S

No, pretty sure it changed in 1988

mantaguy

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My 86 TA came with these,maybe it has something to do with 4 wheel disk brakes(WS6).

scottmoyer

Mantaguy, I wonder if that brake pad is an OEM pad. Notice the font size and layout compared to the rest of the "disc brake" pads listed. It just doesn't look as clean and crisp as the others.

mantaguy

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It is a replacement,I forget were I got it,but it was sold to me as OEM, OER.or NOS.maybe Ebay,GM Direct or GM Parts Cheap.If it's not,it sure is close to what was on their.

dmk250

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I was curious, so I snapped a picture of mine. I have no reason to believe that any of these have been replaced. 1985 Trans Am WS6.

86WS6

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1982 Pontiac Firebird Trans AM WS7. All original car with 24K actual miles on it. These are the OE pedals, however you can see 31 years of wear from starting the engine each week.

86WS6

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1986 Pontiac Trans AM WS6 with 30K actual miles. Again like the 82, there is 27 years of wear and tear from starting the engine each week. These are the OE pedal pads.

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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It seems true that the lined pads were available throughout almost the entire Third Gen randomly on disc cars. I think the style is from the late 60s-late 70s cars mostly. Possibly leftovers? Back then some had chrome inserts also. It's definitely true that the replacement Disc Brakes font is slightly different than the original pads.

kymmee

Per chazman's request-1982 Firebird base 24k. Its a Van Nuys car, built in month of April, 1st or 2nd week.



On an interesting side note-86WS6 has an 82 TA with the maroon interior-but look at the vinyl piece near the gas pedal. His has a more reddish maroon look as mine is darker maroon.

mantaguy

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I went threw my parts & illustration catalog and it is only listing one automatic peddle pad for 82-87,P/N 15522095,then it list P/N 14036125 for 88 and up.Then I found this on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Buick-Cadillac-Chevy-GMC-Olds-Pontiac-w-Automatic-Transmission-Brake-Pedal-Pad-/370732721239?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item5651646457witch is a after market replacement for P/N 15522095.witch it shows the Disk Brake Logo.
So their may be some truth to left over parts being used by GM back then

mantaguy

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I went threw my parts & illustration catalog and it is only listing one automatic peddle pad for 82-87,P/N 15522095,then it list P/N 14036125 for 88 and up.Then I found this on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Buick-Cadillac-Chevy-GMC-Olds-Pontiac-w-Automatic-Transmission-Brake-Pedal-Pad-/370732721239?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item5651646457witch is a after market replacement for P/N 15522095.witch it shows the Disk Brake Logo.
So their may be some truth to left over parts being used by GM back then

86WS6

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My 82 is a late year build Norwood car.

ev305tpi

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My 87 IROC (from the top post with the red gut) is a Norwood car, I checked my 87 GTA, it also has the lined "disc brake" pad

83 Crossfire TA

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Well, not that this helps but:
83 TA, aluminum drums- lined
87 Formula 350, disk rear- lined
87 TA, cast iron drums- lined

you can tell norwood or van nays from the vin, correct? if so I have scans of the titles and I can check them all from here if you want.

SolarGoldRaptor

Same pedals in my 1984 Trans Am, I doubt they've ever been changed as she spent most of her life in the UK and you don't find official GM stores that carry 3rd gen parts there.