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Old Dec 22, 2014 | 02:00 PM
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Nit pick the hell out of this 3D of a 91 GTA!

http://humster3d.com/2014/09/16/pont...s-am-gta-1991/

I'm in correspondence with the creator right now to improve on this which is the most accurate one currently out there. Some are really bad lol.

Aside from obvious things like the aero wing and rear hatch being curved up, the center caps being base model not WS6, the door key locks missing, the lock between the taillights being silver not black, PONTIAC missing from the taillights and also the drivers headlight cover, the side mirrors being turned in, what else can you guys spot on the exterior? On the inside I know the dash pad is curved and the seat side bolsters are wrong.

There is something very wrong with the bottom of the rear bumper, can't quite put my fingers on it.

Anyway, I told the guy I would email him detailed pictures of everything wrong with it so he could make the corrections. He was cool with that and of course I know the price will go up a bit. But on the plus side there will be an accurate 3D model available and perhaps once he gets all the basics right, you guys can email him about doing other years too.

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Old Dec 22, 2014 | 02:31 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
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Re: Nit pick the hell out of this 3D of a 91 GTA!

THe obvious like you mentioned was the spoiler and the hatch are curved up in the middle which is not correct.

- The tail lights literally look like they were from a model kit, they do not quite look right, also they are missing the "PONTIAC" lettering, and the reflector section. There is a gap below the tail lights where it appears that they wanted to add the reflector but forgot. Actually for that year the reflector is on the top, not the bottom for 91 & 92

- The tail lights also do not appear to come out flush like they should, it almost looks like they are set back in one picture... The 360° view looks right, but they are slightly too dark IMHO. Not horribly dark, just need more reflection. They look "Flat" in comparison the the front driving light/turn signal lights

- IT appears to be missing the front air dam

- The emblem is too high in the sail panel IMHO

- The front turn signals I think are supposed to have an amber lens, not clear.

- Missing the blue shading at the top of the windshield

- Missing the blackout shading on the rear window
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The back seats go from side to side, there is supposed to be a gap, and there is a small headrest on the back seats that did not exist unless you had the 1988 notch-back or the 1989 TTA

-The brake Calipers are on the front of the wheels, I believe they were on the rear of the wheels, mine are... But I have aftermarket brakes...

-The rear side marker lights seem just a touch big.

-It is missing the door locks

-The rear hatch has the buttons, BUT there is no physical hinges you can see through them where there should be a hinge.

-The rear view mirror hangs from the roof, should be attached to windshield

-There should be a small slit on the drivers side of the front air dam.

-The ridge down the hood is too pointy,

-The rear bumper should have a indentation below the tail lights, the one in the image is squared off like the 85-90 style.

-Missing the seatbelts, missing the brackets on the headrests,

-Headrests look slightly too large, and they are missing the little dials to adjust them,

-The headrests also should have a little accordion thing under them when looking at them from the rear.

- and it is missing the 3rd brake light from inside the rear window.

Want more? I might be able to nit pick a few more if pressed.

In all honesty it looks like whoever did that used a model kit or a die cast kit and a 3D imaging system to put it into the computer...

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Old Dec 22, 2014 | 02:50 PM
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Re: Nit pick the hell out of this 3D of a 91 GTA!

To me it also looks like the front seats are completely too wide almost like something out of a truck.And is missing the nose emblem as well as tag bracket.The third brake light is missing out of the hatch.The sail panel birds look right color wise but fender emblems look WHITE.And it looks like theres no exhaust on the car.
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Old Dec 22, 2014 | 02:56 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
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Re: Nit pick the hell out of this 3D of a 91 GTA!

The exhaust should be almost invisible, the only thing you might see would be the very tips, otherwise they are tucked out of the way.

The only car that got exposed pipes was the 91/92 Firehawk from the factory.

Most of the aftermarket mufflers, and the 4th gen mufflers are all exposed.

I have about 2 or 3 more things that I did not mention, let see how nitpicky people really are..
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Old Dec 22, 2014 | 03:18 PM
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Re: Nit pick the hell out of this 3D of a 91 GTA!

What is this used for?
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Old Dec 22, 2014 | 03:27 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Re: Nit pick the hell out of this 3D of a 91 GTA!

I would imagine you could use it to make a model kit if you had a CNC machine or a 3D printer to make custom parts for a model kit.

honestly it is neat to look at, and has no real value... Cool look what I can do for $75.00!

It would be cool to take the model, and make a clear block of acrylic on a CNC machine... but otherwise not sure what to use it for.

John
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Old Dec 22, 2014 | 03:38 PM
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Re: Nit pick the hell out of this 3D of a 91 GTA!

Originally Posted by okfoz
I would imagine you could use it to make a model kit if you had a CNC machine or a 3D printer to make custom parts for a model kit.

honestly it is neat to look at, and has no real value... Cool look what I can do for $75.00!

It would be cool to take the model, and make a clear block of acrylic on a CNC machine... but otherwise not sure what to use it for.

John
When I seen the $75 price I was like.. uhh.. they better actually print this thing out or make the scale model of this car for that price.
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Old Dec 22, 2014 | 03:43 PM
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Re: Nit pick the hell out of this 3D of a 91 GTA!

Cats out of the bag lol. Here's a hint, aside from being useful for doing mockups of wheels, colors, etc. you can also import it into Autodesk 123D Make which is 3D printing software

Yes, please pick this bloody thing to bits so it's as precise as possible! Thanks!!!!!
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Old Dec 22, 2014 | 03:46 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Re: Nit pick the hell out of this 3D of a 91 GTA!

Fine, it is bugging me.
The rear hatch area is wrong under the glass, there appears to be some sort of slope behind the back seats... not sure what this is about.

Also the front emblem is invisible.
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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 01:20 PM
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Re: Nit pick the hell out of this 3D of a 91 GTA!

I'll play

Not much after you heavy hitters stepped up to the plate! What I noticed..

1) All four wheels in the model are rear offset

2) Factory front 10.5" rotors/11" rears. In the model the fronts are bigger. Possibly 1le equipped gta? History dudes, you'd know if this was possible or not...

3) The rear bumper isn't right because the bottom lip protrudes rearward too much, and is too squared off

4) The airbag area of the steering wheel is incorrect. The sides are angled/tapered inward when they should be more square.

and just for fun, all the body gaps are waaaay too nice

Merry Christmas everyone! I had fun with this!

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Old Dec 29, 2014 | 02:27 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Re: Nit pick the hell out of this 3D of a 91 GTA!

Originally Posted by 90firebird

and just for fun, all the body gaps are waaaay too nice

Merry Christmas everyone! I had fun with this!
The last time I painted my 87, I went around and made sure the gaps were as good as possible... It makes a huge (but unnoticeable) difference in presentation. Start with the back of the doors, move forward to the front fenders, then work with the hood and front faceia... It is a pain but you can get it to look pretty good... Most people would never notice, but it is the little things that add up... I had to bend, push & pull to get it to really line up... For any gap I was able to get one end to the other end to about 1/32.. I used a digital caliper to get it as close as possible...
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 09:56 PM
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Re: Nit pick the hell out of this 3D of a 91 GTA!

Originally Posted by okfoz
- The front turn signals I think are supposed to have an amber lens, not clear.

The back seats go from side to side, there is supposed to be a gap, and there is a small headrest on the back seats that did not exist unless you had the 1988 notch-back or the 1989 TTA
lenses are supposed to be clear, with amber bulbs

91/92 had the non split rear seat. Not sure when they switched to that 90 or 91
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 07:34 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Re: Nit pick the hell out of this 3D of a 91 GTA!

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lenses are supposed to be clear, with amber bulbs

91/92 had the non split rear seat. Not sure when they switched to that 90 or 91
You are right, I forgot about the clear lenses...

I was referring to on the sides of the seats where they meet the interior trim. The seats do not go all the way, there are gaps on either side. I should have made that more clear.
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 04:28 AM
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Re: Nit pick the hell out of this 3D of a 91 GTA!

Originally Posted by okfoz
- The emblem is too high in the sail panel IMHO
Thats no opinion..its fact.
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