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Old 02-09-2019, 06:51 PM
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Formula w/5.7 t top

Just got a 1988 formula with 5.7 ws6 red with t tops. How many 5.7 t top made? 105k miles
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Re: Formula w/5.7 t top

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Just got a 1988 formula with 5.7 ws6 red with t tops. How many 5.7 t top made? 105k miles
In 88:

L98: 2613
LB9: 2592
TOTAL forms: 13,480
total t-tops:6673

You could extrapolate, and figure 6673/13480 = 50% of Formulas recieved T-tops, so divide the L98 number in half to get a rough approximation. That number roughly would track TransAms but GTA's only saw a 28% ratio.

1990 was a very rare year for L98 T-tops

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Re: Formula w/5.7 t top

Seems like *more than 50%* received T-Tops.

Honestly, IMO, the hardtop is the one to have.
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Re: Formula w/5.7 t top

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the hardtop is the one to have.
There is something to be said for a roof that isn't nearly as likely to leak every time it gets wet.
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Re: Formula w/5.7 t top

I think “the market” throws a premium at T’s.
80s nostalgia, summer driven only, added rarity etc
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Re: Formula w/5.7 t top

I now have one of each🙂
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Both cars have just over 100k. T top car has been stored for 23 yrs. Other than a single crack in the dash interior is a 9 out of 10. High option to. Dose have a salvage title.😂 I don't see why! Only damaged bumper fender and door on passenger side. Is there any way to get the salvage changed back to clean?
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You might be able to get a rebuilt title after inspection but, it will always have a branded title.
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I know Carfax would show it having been in a accident
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Re: Formula w/5.7 t top

Originally Posted by Bobby Suth
Both cars have just over 100k. T top car has been stored for 23 yrs. Other than a single crack in the dash interior is a 9 out of 10. High option to. Dose have a salvage title.😂 I don't see why! Only damaged bumper fender and door on passenger side. Is there any way to get the salvage changed back to clean?
100,000 miles and the interior is a 9? How about some photos of the interior?
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Re: Formula w/5.7 t top

Are we sure it's an 88 and not an 89 ?
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Gotta confess I did not look at the date on the title. I took the Po at his word on that. I will look as soon as I get home. What makes you think it is a 89? The formula 350 on the door?
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Re: Formula w/5.7 t top

89 and late 91 through 92 are only years you can get "formula 350" with factory ttops in USA.

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Re: Formula w/5.7 t top

T-tops data is available starting in 1990.

Formula Data only
1990: 4834 units, 2983 received t-tops
1991: 5465, 3100
1992: 896, 557
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Re: Formula w/5.7 t top

It's a 89. I thought I read on here that 88 didn't have 350 t top. That's why I asked him twice if it was a 88. No biggie for 800 I'd buy 10 more
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Re: Formula w/5.7 t top

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89 and late 91 through 92 are only years you can get formula 350 with factory ttops in USA.
Thanks for clarifying that, I thought that was 90 specfic, didn't realize it was 87,88,90 and early 91. Now that makes for a rare Formula. Ooops, I mean unusual.
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Re: Formula w/5.7 t top

Originally Posted by TTOP350
89 and late 91 through 92 are only years you can get formula 350 with factory ttops in USA.
Robert Casey's book lists 6673 1988 Formulas with option CC1 - "Removable roof panels - glass"
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Re: Formula w/5.7 t top

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Robert Casey's book lists 6673 1988 Formulas with option CC1 - "Removable roof panels - glass"
Are they 350/5.7 cars or just formulas?
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Re: Formula w/5.7 t top

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It's a 89. I thought I read on here that 88 didn't have 350 t top. That's why I asked him twice if it was a 88. No biggie for 800 I'd buy 10 more
100% with ya, for 800 bux line them up!!!
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Re: Formula w/5.7 t top

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Are they 350/5.7 cars or just formulas?
Unfortunately his book does not break down that figure into Formula 350 vs Formula with t-tops
However, I seem to recall seeing a couple 1988 Formula 350's with t-tops in the past.......but I could be wrong,
they may have been 89's
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Re: Formula w/5.7 t top

I've seen 88s but they have C&C tops. Can't say I've ever seen a 350 87-88 90-91.75 with factory ttops
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I've seen 88s but they have C&C tops. Can't say I've ever seen a 350 87-88 90-91.75 with factory ttops
Looks like you could get them on 87 & 88 GTA's with the 350 - so not sure why you could not get them on the Formula 350 in 88 ??
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Re: Formula w/5.7 t top

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Looks like you could get them on 87 & 88 GTA's with the 350 - so not sure why you could not get them on the Formula 350 in 88 ??
GM doing GM stuff I guess, Johns website http://www.3rdgenformula.com shows them N/A with 350 in those years
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GM doing GM stuff I guess, Johns website http://www.3rdgenformula.com shows them N/A with 350 in those years
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...0-pontiac.html
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Re: Formula w/5.7 t top

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GM doing GM stuff I guess, Johns website http://www.3rdgenformula.com shows them N/A with 350 in those years
First place I popped over to. In fact, he shows them never available, any year.
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Ok. The Po had parts piled in the car.bumper cover fender lights. You get the picture. Little stuff. I got the stuff out. Most will clean up good. Small 1 inch tare on the top of the back seat. Seats have dent's I hope will come out. I am soaked. Unloaded in the rain. Changing and heading back out to get rpo codes and pic's. When cleaned up still may not be a 9/10. I will let the members of tgo give me their opinions and rate it for me. I will get the rpo codes in a few.
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Temps me to put the interior and engine transmission into my Blue 88. It is clean straight and no wrecks. Title already in my name. Biggest problem is don't have a non vats engine harness or ECM.
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Here is a harness and ecm out of a 88
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Rpo. Aaa ah3 ar9 au3 a31 a90 bc8 b2l b67 b84 cc1 c49 c60 dc4 de4 dg7 p3y d42 d81 d98 e5z e9z fe2 gw6 g80 ip8 j65 kc4 k34 k68 l98 md8 mxo na5 n36 n64 peo qlc r64 tr9 ub3 uf6 um6 uq1 u25 u29 u62 u75 van vk3 y73 ws6 wx1 w66 zv1 1sb 1sz 12p 6zw 7zw 8nl 81q 81u 82b 82i 829 9nl l8774 u8774 I haven't figured out a few of them. I did decode the list. Was to dark for pics
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AFAIK this is the only years for T-tops and the 350
87 (maybe 88) GTA & Trans Am in CANADA only
87-89 IROC-Z (not many in 88)
89, 91-92 Formula...

All others 90+GTA/Trans Am/IROC, Should all be suspect
87-88 & 90 Formula should be suspect.
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Got it inside. now I can get pics.
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