Firebird headlight motor wiring - did factory use wire loom?
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Firebird headlight motor wiring - did factory use wire loom?
Did the factory use wire loom to protect the headlight motor wires? I'm not finding any evidence of it, but it seems like it wouldn't have hurt to put it there. Anyone know?
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Re: Firebird headlight motor wiring - did factory use wire loom?
On my 88, 91 and 92 there is loom on some of the wiring for the headlight harness, but nothing on the headlight door side motor wire stub, and I want to say not on the body side up to the connector, but I think it is on there across the radiator support opening area
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Re: Firebird headlight motor wiring - did factory use wire loom?
passenger side
driver side
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Re: Firebird headlight motor wiring - did factory use wire loom?
I've had the pig tail rub through once and it fried my headlight module when it shorted out so adding some split loom isn't a bad Idea I did so after fixing it.
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Re: Firebird headlight motor wiring - did factory use wire loom?
any you guys have super low mileage car? the never drivens never show us this area. guess it’s kind of boring
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Re: Firebird headlight motor wiring - did factory use wire loom?
I say this as a fan of the third gen... it's not a well-designed car.
My first 2 hours of working on it seriously, 1 hour was refusing to believe what I was seeing. "I must be confused, nobody would design something that does this it's completely stupid." After that I decided forget originality except for looks. Everything hidden is getting fixed, even if fixed means thrown in the trash, like in the case of my park lock cable which leaves the firewall and comes back in. That was apparently the intended, "correct" routing.
My first 2 hours of working on it seriously, 1 hour was refusing to believe what I was seeing. "I must be confused, nobody would design something that does this it's completely stupid." After that I decided forget originality except for looks. Everything hidden is getting fixed, even if fixed means thrown in the trash, like in the case of my park lock cable which leaves the firewall and comes back in. That was apparently the intended, "correct" routing.
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Re: Firebird headlight motor wiring - did factory use wire loom?
I have to say there aren't many things where I could say I was baffled by the engineering on these cars
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Re: Firebird headlight motor wiring - did factory use wire loom?
Another example of questionable design is that joint in the steering that adds the slop, and there's the headlight motors always breaking.
I do like the power wire color scheme and the load distribution blocks that let you pull the harnesses apart more easily, wish they were on more cars.
All I'm saying is if you can't see it on the outside, and you are sure you can do it better, it's probably a good idea to just do it.
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Re: Firebird headlight motor wiring - did factory use wire loom?
My park-lock cable on my 86 was from the shifter to the ignition switch - totally inside the car. The plastic bits on the ignition switch end of the cable disintegrated and left my key stuck in the ignition. That was a fun day. I deleted that garbage.
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
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Re: Firebird headlight motor wiring - did factory use wire loom?
My 89 Formula 350 Conv has wire loom going to the headlight assy... It is a 37K mile car...
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Re: Firebird headlight motor wiring - did factory use wire loom?
Thanks for chiming in John. did they tape each end of the loom? is the loom high temp with grey stripe? one more if you don’t mind. is it only the section from connector to motor?
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Re: Firebird headlight motor wiring - did factory use wire loom?
IIRC mine is taped by the headlight for sure. Ususaly they tape the unions as well, to keep the loom from chafing on the wires. NOW I have to look and make sure.
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Re: Firebird headlight motor wiring - did factory use wire loom?
Arrow points to where taped - that is how mine is from factory
The red outline shows where I was wondering if high temp loom would be located and the stripes are the end sections that would normally be taped if loom was installed.
Not sure why it would have disappeared from both sides if it was ever installed, but stranger things have happened.......
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
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Re: Firebird headlight motor wiring - did factory use wire loom?
ooohhhh I was thinking of the larger wire loom... I would have to look at those.
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