Does anyone know approximately how many hardtop 82 Camaro Indy pacecars were built?
I have 'never' seen one that wasn't a T/Top car.. until today.
The car appears to be a stripper LG4, wit no tops and no Air.
I know they made 6000+ 82 pacecars but I can't seem to fine any numbers on how many were TBI, Carbed or Hardtop.

 

82 won't have any TBI cars. The engines will be the Crossfire 305 and a non crossfire 305.

 

Technically the ceasefire was a TBI setup.

 

The 82 Pace Car registry believes that about 100 hard top cars were built. They have only had 25 register so far. Out of 6360 cars produced, that's a pretty rare car!

 

A registry for the pace cars scott? I never knew that and I've seen a few at the local cruises around here. Supposedly, and I hate to say it, there's one here in and around cleveland, stored in a baggie from day 1 and has less than a 1000 miles on it. I've been nagging my resource to get me out to this guy.

 

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you have to specifically order a pace car without T-tops, otherwise it was one of those manitory options, they automatically came with them unless they special ordered without them?

 

Actually, the TTops was an option on that car. Most people just decided to get it. Most people believe that it came as part of the Pace Car package, since most cars have them, but it was an option.

 

Well I'm sure a few of you guys have found it but heres the car
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eb...tem=1814399074

I like TTops or I'd bid...

 

WOW! that car is in bad shape for the mileage. Just from the pictures it would be a PITA to put this car back together. The #1 concern I have is the engine. Note the blue valve covers. I would wager a guess thats not the original engine. Also the orange heater hoses, aftermarket radiator cap, etc Plus the wear on the seats, the fallen headliner, incorrect radio, broken steering wheel centercap, the aftermarket switch in the dash, cracked dash, fragged steering wheel. And there is the exterior... the damage on both sides, the missing hood, the wrong centercaps and missing centercaps, missing decals... etc. The current high bid is already higher than what the car is probably worth.

 

If somone wants a 1 of 25 (or 1 of 100) that might be a cool car.
Most of the parts it needs are standard 82 to 84 parts, the only thing I saw specfic to it was the crack in the seat.
I think your right about the engine but I still don't think it would be too hard to put back together to a driver.
Considering it is a 1 of 25 (or 1 of 100) known to exist I don't think it should be sent to a scrap yard.

 

The decals for that car are almost $1k. Add in a good paint job (because of rarity) and your looking at $3500+. The seat can be repaired by an upholstery shop and probably won't cost more than $100. The fenders, front end, hood and body work should be less than $1k for all of it. $4500 + cost of car + $1500 for incidentals, make this a fairly decent price if the engine is correct. However, the one I bought last year cost $8500 with 18k original miles. It's also show worthy and has been in some shows. I don't know about this ones true condition. Also, I can't tell from the picture I have of our engine compartment if the Valve covers are blue or not. Cars' in storage, so i can't check.

 

If you look back by your Air conditioning compressor its looks like they are blue.
I had an nice 84 Z28 years ago but for the life of me I can't remember what color that stuff was..
If somone could do the body work themselves I bet they could put this back together cheap..
My plan would be to use a 82 to 82 z as a parts car then send it to my uncles body shop for paint work then bite the bullet on the decals.
I sent an email the owner and he said he was hoping to get 2k for the car.

 

My 83's was black. I believe GM killed the blue valve covers somewhere around 1980.

The reason I say it would be difficult is that 82 parts arent exactly easy to come by. And judging from the problems you can see in the pics, the cars been well used and probably has its own fair share of hidden treasures.

The decals, seats, and centercaps, are all specific to the pace car. I'm sure other parts are specific. Also the dashpad is specific to 82-83, maybe 84 only. Until more restoration parts are available I don't think this would be a good one for a restoration. At least not when there are many more pace cars to choose from. Its just unfortunate that this one is so far gone.

 

Drew, you're right about things being pace car specific. I think the centercaps are standard Z28 caps, though. The dash pad was 82-83 specific only. The hard part would be getting the correct hood and hood insulation. We haven't found anybody with the correct hood insulation yet! If someone wanted a rare car, that needed some work, this could be the car since it doesn't really need a complete restoration. I do agree that there are better ones out there for less than would be invested in this one. It's just not often you see them w/o Ttops

 

I should be more specific... the centercaps themselves are generic but the emblems are specific to the pace car. Note they have the Z28 logo in Red/Orange as where the normal Z28's had the emblem in silver/gray.

 

I wasn't being "technical". I didn't know they were specific to the Pace Car. So no 82-87 Z28's had red/orange Z28 on the centercaps? I thought they were standard issue caps!

 

from what i've seen the pace cars were the only to receive the Red Z28 logo...

 

Part if me says fix it but alot says part it for another pace car. With blue valve covers I bet it's wrong engine and salavge title kills the car. What is the value of a salvage car. Being 1 of 100 is what bothers me. Why would you let the insurance company scrap the car? I would rather get a cheap estimate and fix it myself out of pocket. I had to do this with my 83 L69 when the rear glass shattered and they wanted to scrap it. I told them no and got the max they were willing to pay now I got some money and a clean title. What moron would be happy with a couple grand for a 1 of 100 car stupid people shoudn't have these rare cars

 

Since the 3rd gen cars aren't demanding high prices yet, the owner probably assumed that a 140 hp 82 car won't really be much of a collector. They probably also don't know about the rarity since it wasn't mentioned in the auction. If it was a typical pace car, would you think a 140hp 1 of 6360 is really very rare or special?

 

The engine is stock/original.
Both of my 82Z's have had Blue valve covers/engine color.
The current 82Z I have had 39990 on it & was purchased from the original owner in 1994. Still had the original Eagle GT's on it.
The blue is definitely right for '82.

 

Due to the amout of the 6k still out there makes it probably somewhat rare now. On the other hand t-tops are a huge option it's not like a car thats rare because of a console clock or different radio. If it is one of a hundred and is the original motor I would say go through it. The car can be documented as to why it has a salvage title it isn't like it was hit by a mack truck rather the car was in poor shape and old so there for the insurance company didn't want to spend any money on it, rather then it being fixed they spent less going by book value and totaling it. Hell they fix vehicles that have been rolled over and don't have a salvage title. Does it mean everything no but I think the title can be over looked if it is to be fixed and kept no one needs to know and as long as it is documented as to the damage and repairs. It shouldn't have a salvage title (if it was just newer).

 

Hey Drew, I belive the first year for black engines was 1982.

Both of the 81 engines I have here (1 is a 305, one is a 350) are blue.

EDIT-- If I had 2k, that car would be sitting in my driveway. sentimental reasons. It's an 82, I was born in 82. I always liked the pace cars..

 

It would be nice to know for sure if the engine is the original or not... the fact that it might not be is enough motivation to stay away from it. But then again someone could probably do something with the car...

 

Just to second my previous post!
A visit to a friend's dad about 8 miles from my house proved BLUE is in fact the right color for the 82Z.
He has 3 Pace Cars. Two are CFI both with under 70,000 on them and BLUE valve covers/engine color.
The other is a 4bbl/4spd that has been in his possesion since NEW also with BLUE valve cover/engine color.
That is now 5 '82Z's I have personally seen, and I'm not colorblind So I would venture to say that BLUE is Original.
A serious poster on this board I may not be, but I have plenty of 3rd Gen experience in my years and have been around since way before 1982.
There is always the possibility that Black may have been used later in the production year in 82.
If memory serves me correctly the run of Pace Cars in 1982 were the first ones made during regular production that year.
This is not meant to upset anyone, just to end the debate over this

 

Nothing wrong with that... ya learn something new everyday.

 

Hey, that's cool

Thanks for taking the extra step to verify the info on the 82's

Much appreciated.

 

If the motor is original I would consider stopping the restoration on my 83 L69 and picking that up. Wait till mor parts are available for my 83. Hell seat covers and door panels are available for pace car atleast. Maybe I will...

 

According to the VIN on that car, it was built in Feb of 82. There wer no Camaros built at the Van Nuys plant during August or Sept of 81. They started production of the 82 models in Oct. 81.

 

I'll second that on the blue valve cover thing, '82 only. Also on this Pace Car anybody notice this is an A/C delete and devoid of any power accessories? This car is screaming "I'm so base, but I'm cool!"

 

as a previous owner of a '82 Pace car, the original color for the engine is corporate Blue, all '82 Camaro engines were blue, starting in '83 GM painted thier engines Black. Mine had the original motor in it. Chris

 

My '82 LG4 was blue.

My '83 LG4 was black.

 

Just thought id ad this tidbit...This past summer at a carshow I saw my first 82 Z Pacecar in person (t-tops). It had 800 miles on it, it was gorgeous! Still had the original window sticker in the window. The owner also had his 68vert and 93Z pace cars there too.

 

Where did you see that show? a friend of mine lives in Missouri and he has all 4 of the Camaro Pace cars. His 82 has 800 miles on it. He also has the 93 with about 4500 miles.

 

It was at a carshow in Summit NJ this past summer. The guy was the original owner. The car was beautiful.

 

I guess it's not the same guy then! He wouldn't have taken more than 1 car to NJ for a show.

 

www.classicindustries.com has ALOT of restoration parts for those. www.yearone.com has a few too.

 

What is this pace car registry?? The only one I can find is for Corvettes???

Tom