Headliner Fix
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Car: 1990 Pontiac Firebird T-Tops
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Headliner Fix
Headliner around the T-Tops is sagging it appears as if one of the previous owners stapled some of it back up. Ive heard of people using glue I dont know if staples is the best thing for the ceiling lol any ideas thoughts opinions?
Re: Headliner Fix
I also have a scrape and recover kit for customers that want to save money and wish to reuse the original pressed board headliner backing.It includes new fabric to recover the old board. AutoZone,Pep Boys Etc. offer a headliner adhesive that you can purchase to properly install the new fabric.
If you have any questions I'd be glad to help, here's a link to the headliner section on our site.
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Re: Headliner Fix
Welcome to the website. We offer a few options to repairing your sagging headliner. We sell the ABS back headliners that are already upholstered for you,basically take it out of the box and install it into your car.
I also have a scrape and recover kit for customers that want to save money and wish to reuse the original pressed board headliner backing.It includes new fabric to recover the old board. AutoZone,Pep Boys Etc. offer a headliner adhesive that you can purchase to properly install the new fabric.
If you have any questions I'd be glad to help, here's a link to the headliner section on our site.
Chevy Camaro Headliner
I also have a scrape and recover kit for customers that want to save money and wish to reuse the original pressed board headliner backing.It includes new fabric to recover the old board. AutoZone,Pep Boys Etc. offer a headliner adhesive that you can purchase to properly install the new fabric.
If you have any questions I'd be glad to help, here's a link to the headliner section on our site.
Chevy Camaro Headliner
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Camaro Hardtop Headliner
Camaro T-Top Headliner
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Car: 1990 Pontiac Firebird T-Tops
Engine: V8 350 5.7 L TPI
Transmission: Overdrive 700R4 (Auto)
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt/GU5AXLE,REAR3.23 RATIO3.23R
Re: Headliner Fix
will these camaro headliners work for my bird though?
and how do i know if my pressed board headliner needs to be replaced or just scraped?
is it bad if the previous owner stapled it or if i do that?
and how do i know if my pressed board headliner needs to be replaced or just scraped?
is it bad if the previous owner stapled it or if i do that?
Re: Headliner Fix
Yes the will they are the same part number.Here's a link to the Fire bird listings too.
Pontiac Firebird Headliner
Pontiac Firebird T-Top Headliner
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will these camaro headliners work for my bird though?
and how do i know if my pressed board headliner needs to be replaced or just scraped?
The kind of depends on if it's water damaged and the board's all falling apart,the cloth also deteriorates over time. If the board is good and you would like to reuse it,we sell material for it. Some guys like the ease of just pulling a new one from the box and just being able to toss it in there.
is it bad if the previous owner stapled it or if i do that?
and how do i know if my pressed board headliner needs to be replaced or just scraped?
The kind of depends on if it's water damaged and the board's all falling apart,the cloth also deteriorates over time. If the board is good and you would like to reuse it,we sell material for it. Some guys like the ease of just pulling a new one from the box and just being able to toss it in there.
is it bad if the previous owner stapled it or if i do that?
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Re: Headliner Fix
GM did not have much forethought when they put a pressed fiberboard for a headliner backer board on a t-top vehicle.
Unfortunately, the condensation from the inside of the t-tops coupled with the sun when the tops are off usually make the board brittle.
If you are lucky enough to get the headliner out in one piece, especially around the seat belts, you can stiffen up the board with some fiberglass resin and hardner.
I chose to purchase a ABS board. It came with holes for a regular dome light and visors. I had to put extra holes for the overhead console. I have been very happy with my choice. Remember to change the headliner material over the speaker covers to match the new headliner, whichever way you choose to go.
DO NOT USE STAPLES (cringe)
Unfortunately, the condensation from the inside of the t-tops coupled with the sun when the tops are off usually make the board brittle.
If you are lucky enough to get the headliner out in one piece, especially around the seat belts, you can stiffen up the board with some fiberglass resin and hardner.
I chose to purchase a ABS board. It came with holes for a regular dome light and visors. I had to put extra holes for the overhead console. I have been very happy with my choice. Remember to change the headliner material over the speaker covers to match the new headliner, whichever way you choose to go.
DO NOT USE STAPLES (cringe)
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Car: 1990 Pontiac Firebird T-Tops
Engine: V8 350 5.7 L TPI
Transmission: Overdrive 700R4 (Auto)
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt/GU5AXLE,REAR3.23 RATIO3.23R
Re: Headliner Fix
Actually I already used staples and it worked quiet well I used one of those big shiney staple guns
Re: Headliner Fix
GM did not have much forethought when they put a pressed fiberboard for a headliner backer board on a t-top vehicle.
Unfortunately, the condensation from the inside of the t-tops coupled with the sun when the tops are off usually make the board brittle.
If you are lucky enough to get the headliner out in one piece, especially around the seat belts, you can stiffen up the board with some fiberglass resin and hardner.
I chose to purchase a ABS board. It came with holes for a regular dome light and visors. I had to put extra holes for the overhead console. I have been very happy with my choice. Remember to change the headliner material over the speaker covers to match the new headliner, whichever way you choose to go.
DO NOT USE STAPLES (cringe)
Unfortunately, the condensation from the inside of the t-tops coupled with the sun when the tops are off usually make the board brittle.
If you are lucky enough to get the headliner out in one piece, especially around the seat belts, you can stiffen up the board with some fiberglass resin and hardner.
I chose to purchase a ABS board. It came with holes for a regular dome light and visors. I had to put extra holes for the overhead console. I have been very happy with my choice. Remember to change the headliner material over the speaker covers to match the new headliner, whichever way you choose to go.
DO NOT USE STAPLES (cringe)
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Re: Headliner Fix
I bought the T-top headliner, already covered, from Hawks. The ABS sags. Any suggestions on how to sure up the headliner? I'd hate to screw it into the metal, but I don't see another option. Someone suggested Velcro, but the glue melts when it gets hot and the headliner sags again.
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Chris
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Re: Headliner Fix
Use a better glue to attach the velcro to the headliner and to the roof. Two part epoxy will ensure that it stays there forever, but if you ever want to get the velcro back off in the future, you can try a less permanent type of glue, like Automotive Goop, or a high temp hot glue. You can also use the same technique to attach the factory clips to the abs headliner that help hold it up by the windshield.
You can also add an overhead console, which will do a great job of holding the headliner up.
You can also add an overhead console, which will do a great job of holding the headliner up.
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Yah know what I bet would work for you guys,go to the parts store and buy some 3M double face tape. They use this to hold ground effects on. It should work perfectly for what you're trying to do.
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Re: Headliner Fix
Tony, I'm not sure how well the tape will stick to the adhesive side of the velcro though. At least with the glue/epoxy, it should stick. If not, I know it'll stick with the non-adhesive backed velcro.
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Re: Headliner Fix
I've used Loctite Permanent Spray Adhesive on adhesive backed velcro when I was reupholstering my rear seats, and it holds remarkably well, even on fabric, and doesn't melt in the heat. I think I'll give that a try.
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Not sure I understand.I was suggesting using that instead of the velcro for the middle part.
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Re: Headliner Fix
Oh. I thought you were suggesting that you attach it to the velcro to let the velcro stick.
I'm a big fan of the velcro route for the sake of removability... the key is getting the velcro to stick to the two parts.
I'm a big fan of the velcro route for the sake of removability... the key is getting the velcro to stick to the two parts.
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