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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:02 AM
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interior panel paint?

I want to repaint the interior plastic panels on my car and wabted to ask what type or brand of paint you guys would recomend.

Any advice would be appreciated

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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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Re: interior panel paint?

Depends on the color. If you can find Krylon Fusion in the color you want like black, then I would use that and it's a one shot deal.
However, if you want a color that's hard to find, like 82-84 Medium Doeskin, then you have to use a bonding agent, like Bulldog, first, as a primer (Pep Boys carries it). Then, you can get the correct color (and a lot of other colors) here:
http://store.rightlook.com/index.asp...ROD&ProdID=224
From what I understand, this combination will never flake, peel or scratch off.

Hope this helps.

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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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Re: interior panel paint?

Originally Posted by corlando52
Depends on the color. If you can find Krylon Fusion in the color you want like black, then I would use that and it's a one shot deal.
However, if you want a color that's hard to find, like 82-84 Medium Doeskin, then you have to use a bonding agent, like Bulldog, first, as a primer (Pep Boys carries it). Then, you can get the correct color (and a lot of other colors) here:
http://store.rightlook.com/index.asp...ROD&ProdID=224
From what I understand, this combination will never flake, peel or scratch off.

Hope this helps.

Chris
thanks for that info. i will buy a few cans today.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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Re: interior panel paint?

Do me a favor and post here how it turns out.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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Re: interior panel paint?

Originally Posted by corlando52
Depends on the color. If you can find Krylon Fusion in the color you want like black, then I would use that and it's a one shot deal.
However, if you want a color that's hard to find, like 82-84 Medium Doeskin, then you have to use a bonding agent, like Bulldog, first, as a primer (Pep Boys carries it). Then, you can get the correct color (and a lot of other colors) here:
http://store.rightlook.com/index.asp...ROD&ProdID=224
From what I understand, this combination will never flake, peel or scratch off.

Hope this helps.

Chris
thanks ill have to check that out
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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Re: interior panel paint?

I'm glad I could help. Let us all know how it works out for you.

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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 08:32 AM
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Re: interior panel paint?

well Chris I bought a few cans yesterday and did some painting today. It appears to really work and is a lot cheaper than buying new interior parts.

GOOD CALL.


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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 10:10 AM
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Re: interior panel paint?

Terrific! I'm happy it worked out for you. Those interior parts are getting harder and harder to find, and now we have an alternative.
What color are you painting them?

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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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Re: interior panel paint?

The key to painting the interior parts is to make sure you wash them with dishsoap and ghet them as clean as possible. Also use adhesion promoter.
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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 11:02 AM
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Absolutely true about washing with dishwashing soap. Gets all the oils and stuff off the plastics. The adhesion promoter is very important, but not sure if it's necessary if you use Krylon Fusion paints. They are made (I think) to go directly on the plastic and "fuse" with it.

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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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Re: interior panel paint?

im going to look at the paint colors this weekend and see what i can find, if i paint it then ill let you know how it turned out

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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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Great! I look forward to reading how it went.

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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 07:36 PM
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Re: interior panel paint?

so i was looking at the paint selection at the store and found a dilema.
i dont know what my original interior color was.

does anybody know what the specific color was called for a 1989 red interior camaro.

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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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Re: interior panel paint?

Josh,
I don't know if knowing the name of the color will help. You would need a piece to bring with you and match it up if you are going the Krylon Fusion route.

Chris
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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Re: interior panel paint?

you should just say screw it and repaint the whole damn interior. screw matching the colors... a lil off is bareley noticeable... (unless you have the eye of a woman) and you dont so be proud!
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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Re: interior panel paint?

You will need more than dishsoap for the paint to get a proper adhesion, trust me.

Back when I first got my car, I stripped ALL the beige panels out to paint black. I was using Krylon Fusion satin black. I too, thought that dishsoap and a scrubbie + garden hose would be sufficient enough to clean them in preparation for paint. WRONG!!!

If armorall or any similar silicone product was ever used, as is probably 99% of our (or any) cars, dish soap doesn't quite cut it for removing the silicone residue. ALL of the panels I did fisheyed really bad while painting. Alot of spots I would have to go over 3 and 4 times to cover. And even after fully cured the paint scratches off reeeeeally easy. The one panel that it actually bonded to, and which I can drag my nails across with force without taking off any paint, was an experiment I decided to do after seeing how poorly the other panels turned out. I gave this panel a very brief (As not to break down and melt the plastic) scrub down with acetone. This is the one panel that turned out right.

Now for the interior restoration I am in the process of, I'm using ti-sodium phosphate and fine steel wool to scrub all the interior pieces before giving them a facelift. In about 2 weeks we will know how effective this combination is.
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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Re: interior panel paint?

I don't think washing with acetone or tri-sodium phosphate is necessary if you use an adhesion promoter like Bulldog. You should experiment with that. I personally don't like using steel wool because I find it opens "pores" in the plastic, and also, ruins the texture if there is one on the plastic.
But let us know how it all comes out in the end.

Chris
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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Re: interior panel paint?

Originally Posted by corlando52
I don't think washing with acetone or tri-sodium phosphate is necessary if you use an adhesion promoter like Bulldog. You should experiment with that. I personally don't like using steel wool because I find it opens "pores" in the plastic, and also, ruins the texture if there is one on the plastic.
But let us know how it all comes out in the end.

Chris

If you scrub the hell out of it with a tough grade of steel wool, yes it will remove the texture like sandpaper.

I used 0000 and gave it a single thorough scrubbing. Krylon Fusion is designed to bond directly with plastic, so not sure what effect adhesion promotor would have. But how would this help if the silicone residue was still left behind? The whole reason for removing the residue is because the paint will NOT stick to it.
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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Re: interior panel paint?

I always use 0000 grade steel wool to smooth out whatever. That would also take off any texture, but not sure if there is actually any texture to take off. I would experiment on a small area first. Most paints DO recommend you wash with an acetone or dishwashing liquid. I was under the impression that if you used dishwashing detergent that cuts grease, that should take off any residual armor all, and after that Bulldog would do the rest.
But experimenting is always key. I'm just not sure about the steel wool. If anything, it might release some of the oils that were used to make the plastic. But I'm not a professional, so I don't really know. It's just me speculating.

Chris
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SEM inteior dyes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mMYl2sW0Zw
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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Re: interior panel paint?

Originally Posted by BMR Sales
Also use adhesion promoter.
YES. I didn't use it when i did mine so in certain areas the paint flaked real easy.
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