Wow really looks good. Im hoping to have superior automotive build me a stroked, supercharged, LS6 for my car, starting in a few months. Im staying with automatic for drag racing purposes though, I'll have a 4L60E built up. Anyways way to go and congrats on the swap.:hail:

 

Damn...you got $$!!?? :lala:

 

That looks sweet!
If I were you I would beef up on the anti-thieft. With that type of money you put in your car you almost need it. It would be cool to have a hidden keypad to have to put in a code before it would start

 

Whats the RWHP ratting you expect on this set up.

 

Not sure I agree with that...you're pretty much married to the shop that did the swap, and you're SOL if he's too busy or in another state.

Just wait until FlynLo has a problem and has to have it towed back to North Carolina to get someone to work on it. I'm not wishing it on him, just pointing out the down side to the process. Anyone think a dealer will touch it? Or try the local chimps who barely know computer controls...when he has trouble, it will get interesting.

If you did the swap yourself, you're usually able to do your own troubleshooting.

 

Couldn't agree more. However I will say this. You should be able to find a Hot Rod shop near you that will work on it. But get ready to PAY. $65.00 at one shop, is like $95.00 at a hot rod shop.

 

On the note of being married to the shop? I have a mechanic here that can tear apart an LS1 or LT1 and not break a sweat.......He told me he didn't have the time to take on a large swap such as the LS1, so that's why i took it to Thirdgenresource, I have arranged with him to be my mechanic in case something goes wrong, not worried about it.......

He enjoys working on cars and actually will do some work for free, that's if you grab a wrench and help him out.......

Updates:

Well i just got off the phone with Stacey and was told that Roy doesn't have time to talk with me.........I'll call tomorrow morning.....again......

But i'm gonna assume still no wiring harness.......

 

Um... How long does it take to get a wiring harness

I mean you could of gotten some 12awg and gotten it done by hand by now If you need one I know a guy on these boards that could easily put one together and have it done in a few days.

 

I saw it last weekend. Roy said once he gets the harness he can wrap it up pretty quick. Its going to be a nice setup.

 

Damn, if I called a place like that and got the answer "he doesn't have time to talk with you" i'd be raising hell. I mean I understand thier busy but a reply like that, forget it. I'd tell them to get him to call me whenever he does find time especially if you slap down $10k in cash to these fools.

EDIT: Just read this and noticed its a bit rude, didn't mean for it to come out that way, just saying that kind of an answer is usually a sign that someone is avoiding you. Your a customer and they need to understand you want to know what is going on with your car, not when they decide you should hear it.

 

Thanks for the kind words, yup from what i hear it's almost done, just that damn wiring harness is holding everything back.......It's not Thirdgenresource that's making the wiring harness........He sent it off to someone else......

 

Do you know who is doing the harness? I'd like to know who does that sort of work.

And I am assuming they are removing that wing for you while it is there...

If not, I can call them and ask them to do it for you...really, I don't mind.

 

I think speartech does custom LT1 & LS1 wiring harnesses.

 

I hate dealing w/ guys who are too polite to say "no" when the phone rings...they have trouble getting work done because they're constantly taking interrupts. Personally, if it's my car I want Roy's head under the hood, not on the phone. I have no problem w/ leaving a message, so long as it gets returned w/in a day or two...there's an interrupt, potty break, etc. somewhere in there where managing the call log fits in.

 

Before this gets out of hand, I talked with Roy today and was informed that the wiring harness was sent to him on Friday......
He also put one of his employees specifically on my car for the next two weeks, so it should be done in 2 weeks and i'll be able to pick it up

I also thought it would be a good idea to install a cat back on there.......Just in case some nosy cop wants to peek underneath the car for some odd reason......

 

CHICKEN!

I drove my IROC-Z28 from Tacoma, WA to Idaho Falls with license plates off of my 92 Grand Am.

If you're not gonna run anything in FL, don't waste the money adding something just to drive it home. If a cop stops you, just tell them that you had the LS1 installed by a professional shop in NC (or wherever) and you were unaware that a cat was not put back on.

 

y did u dish out so much money when u just could have built a 383 and made it just as fast or faster if done right with less money?

 

B3Caus3 H3 wAnt3d tO B33 Diff3r3nT anD hAv3 a UniQu3 cAR. DatS Y.

 

If that's all he wanted he could have just nailed a dead cat to his hood.

Sorry, but I guess I missed something here. Why spend all that money just to be different?

Spending a load of money to have something the way you want it isn't that uncommon. When you do the work yourself and can achieve the same performance as an expensive car for a lot less money, that's what sets you apart from the others.

IF you worked hard for all that money then you should have invested it in a new vette.

 

Show me where I can get a "NEW Vette" for 10K and I'll buy it!

 

where the hell do you get 10K from? isn't that just for an engine swap? either way, a good used vette would be a better investment.

 

I belive he wanted to have good mpg too.

Whats the fun in that, plus this is a F-Body site, Just look at the time, effort and money he put in his car, It looks like it is worth it to him and that is all that matters.

 

It would be nice to think he was under your car because he is busy wouldn't it? But guess what, 95% of the time they don't want to speak with you because thier not working on your car and thier putting it on hold and don't want to have to keep telling you nothing has been done.

 

At this rate mine will be back in my car and ready to go before yours... lol

 

Ridiculous insurance rates, only two seats, no storage room, any stock used vette will still be slower then my car, and the repair bills on a vette?? No thanks, I'll take it's engine, you can have the rest of the car..........

I could have very easily built a 383 and thrown in under the hood, but at 1.79/gallon, I'll have a smile on my face when i'm getting close to 30 mpg on the highway......

 

I honestly do not think 10k is a boat load of money. SOME people have to read the whole thread before commenting here. I am not trying to start a war at all, but I cannot seem to understand why people keep making negative remarks here????
FLYN, good luck with the setup, it looks great!!

 

I guess some people do think 10,000 is a lot of money and they're looking for ways to get the most out of their money. I come to the engine swap forum to look for ways to maximize my money, this thread isn't really doing much to contribute to that. I'm not saying anything is wrong with what FLYNLOW92rs is doing, I'm saying a lot of people here in the swap forum are having a hard time understanding why he is doing it.

I have scars on my hands and grease under my fingernails and I'm proud of it. For 10,000 I could build my dream car. My LT1 swap only cost me about $100. I'm looking for posts here to help me make my money go far, I'm not looking for posts where someone just tells someone else what he wants and gives him a bucket of money.

This is why some here have a problem with what FLYNLOW92rs is doing.

Also, I wouldn't phone the shop where they're doing all this work, I'd go down there and see for myself.

 

Wow, 10k must be chump change to you, but I ain't that rich. Im not commenting on the cost though, just for that much to a shop i'd wanting the shop manager doing a "Star date 3231.23 i've begun work on the wiring harness, blah blah".

 

i can't believe this thing has gone as far as it has......it's no wonder a majority of thirdgens and their owners are viewed the way they are. makes me want to build a mustang sometimes.

 

If you're thinking the Mustang camp is more enlightened, check corral.net...they have at least as many Joe Dirt colleagues as there are here.

Actually...Joe Dirt was a step up...he had a Hemi.

 

Nobody says you have to read this post?

 

Hey FLYNLOW I'm in pensacola...when I get the money to do a LS1 swap, ya know in 30 years, we should run em! Everybody, seriously, get off his back. It was his money, his car, his decision to do the swap. Sure he could've build a Gen I SBC that is a lot faster and got 6 mpg, but who hasn't done a 383 swap? I'd kill for a LS1, though I'd probably be crazy and try it myself. The only reason he shelled out all the money to do it, IF you read the ENTIRE thread, is because he has no place to do it himself, nor the time to do it himself. So seriously, give the man some respect in the fact that he has a really nice sleeper, except for the wing. Sorry FLYNLOW, that has r!ce written all over it, but to everyone his own! Let us know the progress and hopefuly you'll get her back soon. And dont' worry about a catback man, how many cops could even keep up with you if they tried to pull you over?!?!?!?!! think about it.......

 

What you mean by that Kandied91Z?

I didn't get what u were implying...

 

COme on! Who has done any swap for a $100. If this is true then someone else must have paid the bill for ya!

Sbc are great becuase everyone can afford the rebuild, but taking a built sbc on a trip and you will have to pay for it on gas.

LS1's are awesome. THey have great power from factory. They love bolt on's. Great gas milage. A much easier to work on than the LT1's.

It might me expensive to do the swap. But take my 82 z28 for exampe. Stock 305 140 horses. Stock Ls1 305 hp. That is a 165 hp increase in swaping motors.

I think 3 or 4 grand is worth that. A turbo or supercharger won't get the gains, reliablity, and gas mileage for that kind of price.

Flynlow"s extra 6 grand is making the already potent LS1 more lethal and upgrading his car to handle all the power. Most would not have to do all the extra; so not every LS1 swap would cost 10 grand.

Might as well do it right and all the way the first time!
Can't wait to hear about the finished product.
FLynLow: wanted you to get more support than grief.

 

The stock tranny and rear end wont hold the LS1 hardly at all....the rear by hold up if u drive it like a 120yr old man. He is just goin the right way the first time (moser 12-bolt...I want one )

 

what did i mean? just what i said....it's ashame what some people say about others in the hobby. those who haven't done it don't know what it takes. it wasn't referred towards anyone in particular. 10,000 is alot to put into any car let alone a thirdgen which bluebooks for 5k on its best day. not to say things can't be done cheaper but everything is done for a reason and whatever that reason may be i'm sure it was the right one. my motor was alot more then that and it isn't an ls1......things aren't cheap in this hobby if you want to go fast. either way respect the man for his willingness to share or move on. some of you who think you can do better for less or your not particularly into a certain idea need to either adapt or move on. way to many people out there jealous of others that bring hate into this hobby let alone the world.

those of you that are this way get over it.

 

I agree w/ ya. If you dont liek it, then dont. No need to spat yer mouth off. If u think u can do better, then do it.

 

 

How are the majority viewed?

I'm not complaining, I was offering an explanation to someones question as to why some people had a problem with flynlow.

maybe some here just need to get their hands dirty and use them to hold tools. I learned many marketable skills working on my car. I've done engine swaps in the parking lot of the apartment I used to live in, all it takes is a little motivation.



All it takes it to look out for and recognize opportunity. The labor was free and it payed me back with experience.

27,000 mile LT1- My wife was rearened in her roadmaster, by the time i got done with the insurance company I had the wreck, another roadmaster and some extra cash. I sold parts off the roadmaster so now I'm 4 or 5 grand ahead.

1989 IROC- bought this and an 86 coupe for $700. I used the coupe to tow the iroc from NY to Georgia which cost me about $150. Sold the coupe for $1500 and sold the 305 out of the iroc for $500 Now I'm about another grand or so ahead.

to put the motor in the iroc all I needed was some JB weld to modify the VSS, electrical tape and solder to rework the wiring harness, and some nuts and bolts and misc electrical terminals. I admit, when I charge the AC system I'll be a little over $100. All the major money saving things I did were posted here because I like to share.

I figure you all are jealous of me.

If anyone is in the augusta georgia area lets get together and make real fast cars real cheap.

Next for me is a turbo, I figure about $800 for that, and either an 8.8 or 9" rear, I figure about 2-3 hundred for that.

How many here go to the junkyard on a regular basis?

 

Kandied put it the way I SHOULD have. I know 10K is alot of money, but these things do not come cheep(that was kind of what I meant in the first place). It adds up so fast, it can leave alot of people with half finished projects often!! I have 11K in my motor, and I was only planning on 6-7K. So in the end 10K is alot of money, but not anything close to an unheard of price to pay for the work being done. I do 95% of my own work, but some people just don't have the knowlege, tools, and garage to do it in!

 

Well, I never really said there there was a problem with paying someone else to do it. I mean if you ain't got a garage or a set tools, it is a bit hard. I was just mentioning the fact about thirdgen resource and them trying to avoid him. But whoever said 10k isn't a lot of money is a joke. I mean i've dropped in about 3k into my car getting my swap done (but also re-doing the interior and exterior) but I don't act like it was chump change.

 

I have 2k into my setup including buying the car.

Wish you were closer with your "ls1" I'd love to show you why you DONT do the swap...

 

for 10,000, imagine the bitchin tool set you could buy. Don't get me wrong, I just want everyone to try to do as much of the work as possible by yourself.

I'm always willing to help anyone make an effort. If someone emails me and says "give me written instructions on how to make a wiring harness" they can go to hell, if someone has the ***** to jump in and just go for it, they have my full support and I'm sure there are others here who would also help. You'd be suprised at what you can do if you have a little faith in yourself.

 

Pasky, is that directed at me??LOL I am 23 years old, I pay for everything I do, I never meant 10K was chump change. I already said I was wording it wrong. We are just ****in up this thread, so I'm out before I say something that gets me banned.

 

Didn't read the part where ya worded it wrong.....Yea seems were taking this thread off its tracks, I didn't mean to cause any distrubances.

 

so back to something relatively close to on topic, are you going to install some kind of anti-theft device?? (not that I expect you to discuss it in detail on here, but I've had things stolen before, and it sucks bad).. [If not], Hopefully that will be first on your list once you get the car back (I think I remember you saying that the VATS system will be disabled on the new ecm)...

 

I just got the motor and tranny mounts ordered today. The $ for this swap is quickly adding up, and I still have to get a fuel system ordered, do something with the rear end, radiator, and I'm adding a torque converter also. Good thing is theres an IROC sitting outside that just might get parts taken off it. When I'm done with the RS, I'll be getting started on some body work for the IROC, and rebuild it the right way, or I might turn it into a drag car. Who knows.

I think this LS1 swap is actually turning out to be pretty fun.

 

I'm gonna do something crazy with the alarm, but yes, VATS will be running in the car

If you gonna call me out, at least post some timeslips or some pictures......

I will agree $10,000 is alot of money, It's like an airplane, you are both on the same flight, but do you really know what the person sitting in the seat next to you paid?? No you don't, hell he could have gotten on free.........Does that mean you get on for free? Nope, that means you paid more for the same thing that someone else got cheaper, It's a fact of life, you deal with it and move on, so yeah you can reach low 12's with $2,000 and I can reach low 12's with $10,000............I'm over it, I can live with it.......

I would rather discuss certain aspects of the swap as well as questions regarding what i have done, then what i have spent doing it.......

An important fact to point out is that i spent less then $2,000 of that $10,000 on labor, the rest was on parts........

 

I think you did well. Dont let anyone else get you down. $10k for a LS1 swap is not bad when you add up parts, labor, etc... Plus the fact that youll get 30mpg running 12's is VERY nice. You could build a SBC gen 1 to do the same, but the engine alone would cost you as much as $10k (all forged, super charger, DFI, etc...) Plus the LS1 REALLY REALLY likes bolt ons. Throw some stage II heads on there and spank LS6's. Also do you have the ls6 manifold or the ls1? Basically is the engine 2000+ (sorry dont have time to go back over three hundred posts )

 

LS1 manifold, got the 1999 Engine..

I do plan on adding the LSX manifold to the car when i do my second run of performence modifications to the LS1......