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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 10:03 PM
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Not sure either, but Im scoping out a pair of TD05's for my next venture. 8psi is nothing to laugh at, Im at 5psi and it really sets you back in your seat

To vulcan, Id recommend a bigger FMIC, those small ones are dwarfed by the massive space 3rd gens have up front. You've got a very air hungry V8, those are best suited for smaller 4cyl cars

Ive got 1AAuto carpet in my 92 currently and dont have much to gripe about. Held up pretty good over the years without much fading. WAY WAY WAY lighter than stock (like 80lbs vs 12lbs)
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yea i am looking to buy new carpet for the car...... what turbo do you think would be good?? looking to get at least 450 easy so if i wanted to go crazy i could boost like 12-15..... i no crazy but i see imports putting out 16psi so i dont see how 8 would be crazy............. but

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Check out the forced induction section of 'tech. Several single guys are making great power with small-mid sized turbos
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Wow, I might have to remember that if I ever decide to go over my car trying to save weight.
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Wow, I might have to remember that if I ever decide to go over my car trying to save weight.
ya i no man that is what i thought dumb me lol
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so,..... can you use 3rd gen rear disc brakes on a fourth gen rearend?? a question that will have pics to show if you can or not will post later
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Bolts right on
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so i have come across 10 grand,............. well not yet but found out ill be gettin that from my bros death....... kinda sad but he would be proud of what i am doing. I miss him alot so this car means alot to me. short story he drove it once when i was outta town and over heated it cause he didnt turn the fans on. lol he called me freaking out sayin sorry evan i am so sorry lol i love him and miss him dearly he was a turbo guy so that is why i have decided to go turbo. but i will get it running and all befor i throw a turbo on her. ill be gettin the money in a couple months. so there will be updates and stuff but nothing drastic till i get it. so hold in there. thanks for keepin my mind off the rope ya guys
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heads- 317 castings, New springs, and valves
Cam- there are a couple from comps i like and lunati. or the ms3-4
bottum end- stock except arp rod bolts
stock ls1 intake, stock throttle body
stock rockers
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so i found a lm7 for 150 that i am picking up. long block assembly. ill only need lil odds and ends off it but it will be up for sale so first come first serve speak now!!
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great price for the goodies (they definitely add up!)
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ya they do man ur build is coming along pretty well dan,.... you got her running yet??
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getting there. still short a fuel pump, starter, alternator, and pcm tune. pretty much all the stuff I need to get the motor to make noise. planning sometime before we get snow
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getting there. still short a fuel pump, starter, alternator, and pcm tune. pretty much all the stuff I need to get the motor to make noise. planning sometime before we get snow
good deal man good deal..... keep up the good work man. ive been keepin my eye on ya.
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picked up the motor tonight.... very good looking. wondering is the crank usable in a lm7 or ls1?? got truck accessories for sale.... lifter trays for sale.... rockers for sale....... block....... pistons...... truck oil pan..... front and rear cover. valey cover.
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Re: 90 firebird formula merges with LQ4 ( questions!!! )

5.3/5.7/6.0 cranks are the same. OEM balances them differently for different applications. Some have ran them as-is in different combos without incedent, but a trip to the machine shop is recommended
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what about the 4.8??
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Main difference from 4.8 to 5.3 is crank stroke. It's shorter for the 4.8
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Main difference from 4.8 to 5.3 is crank stroke. It's shorter for the 4.8
think i might just keep the 4.8 lying around in case i wanna through into a jeep or something ya no..... but my wife and i found a house so build postponed due to house situation for now. will be back within a month let me no what you think of the build gents thanks
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k so i got the 4.8 torn down took what all i could get off it off and am selling the rest. no i got a set of truck coils so i had to bend the fuel rail where the quick connect connects here is a pic

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now other then that i got the coils settin on the engine here is a pic of how it is settin and just some random pics

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i am taking the 4.8 heads which are casting 862 same as the 5.3 and am porting them and haveing them cleaned then gonna use them plus a cam. later down the road ill put a good set on but for now this will have to do.
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does the truck windage tray work with the fbody oil pan and pick up tube?
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If you trim it
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found a kit through jegs that is for muscle cars from 55 to 95 for the lsx swap. i might try it it is only 200 compared to 400 so ill give it a shot oil pan kit that is
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so i am gettin married on the 10th. next sunday,.... and will be buyin a house. my wife knows how important the car is to me considering my older bro and i started it and he killed himself so she is all for me building it. so in a lil while ill be on the way
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Are you gonna paint the intake and valve covers or just leave them primer? Or is it grey paint?
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Are you gonna paint the intake and valve covers or just leave them primer? Or is it grey paint?
it is a silver metallic paint, i got no motivation for this build anymore.... i might be selling everything so pm if you are interesed in parts
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What happened man? Why did you change your mind? I guess if you're serious about parting it out, PM me on some of the stuff you're selling. I might be interested, but I hate to see you abandon the project.
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What happened man? Why did you change your mind? I guess if you're serious about parting it out, PM me on some of the stuff you're selling. I might be interested, but I hate to see you abandon the project.
no motivation any more..... thinking bout going with a fourth gen...... idk though man i love these cars just slow going and i am gettin inpatient..... idk man idk
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I'd much rather have a swapped 3rd gen than a 4th gen. It's just so much cooler. You'll regret not finishing it. So what if it takes you a while longer? Its not a race, just take it slow and do it right and you'll be happier in the end.
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I'd much rather have a swapped 3rd gen than a 4th gen. It's just so much cooler. You'll regret not finishing it. So what if it takes you a while longer? Its not a race, just take it slow and do it right and you'll be happier in the end.

I've been on my project for a year and a half now, i'm about 90% percent done. There have been some frustrating times and there have been times where i've lost motivation as well, you just gotta stick with it! My car will still look like a dump for awhile because after I get this swap done i'll be saving for a house and getting married a year from now, but I plan to stay with it until I get this car 100% complete interior/exterior and all. Then the girlfriend and I will be getting a 4th gen, she's been wanting one for awhile now! Just trying to help build some motivation here! You're doing a great job!
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I'd much rather have a swapped 3rd gen than a 4th gen. It's just so much cooler. You'll regret not finishing it. So what if it takes you a while longer? Its not a race, just take it slow and do it right and you'll be happier in the end.
just mocked up.............. and i am in love....... i am gettin excited but still the wait beter be worth it lol..... just go through my days plus i am bipolar so... ya go through my moods
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I've been on my project for a year and a half now, i'm about 90% percent done. There have been some frustrating times and there have been times where i've lost motivation as well, you just gotta stick with it! My car will still look like a dump for awhile because after I get this swap done i'll be saving for a house and getting married a year from now, but I plan to stay with it until I get this car 100% complete interior/exterior and all. Then the girlfriend and I will be getting a 4th gen, she's been wanting one for awhile now! Just trying to help build some motivation here! You're doing a great job!
thanks so much you and bluezee thanks guys built me up. I was at the shhop last night working on it and mocked up the engine bay with the motor ill post a pic looks SICK!! so that helped but thanks ya guys
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thanks so much you and bluezee thanks guys built me up. I was at the shhop last night working on it and mocked up the engine bay with the motor ill post a pic looks SICK!! so that helped but thanks ya guys
Not a problem man that's what we're here for! I'm pretty sure you'll be happy with it, I know I was and wished I would've done it sooner!
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Let's see that photo! The night I finally got the engine bolted down onto the k member was one of the most excited times during the whole swap.
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so i got the heads sitting in a container of gasoline to see if it will clean them........ i hope so cause they are dirty!! but i ported them ill get a pic of the ports. i am at the shop so when i get home ill post that pic of the engine sitting in there
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well i thgouth i took a pic but this is what i got so ill take another tommorow

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Degreaser, wire brush and a pressure washer cleaned my heads up significantly
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ya i did do that after the pic so they look a lot better but my dad has done this befor so ill see what is does for me
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so here are some pics of the engine sittin in there hopefully you all like! i know i do!!

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Great job on the progress man! Your brother would be proud of you i'm sure.

Pretty soon you'll be doing this ---->
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Great job on the progress man! Your brother would be proud of you i'm sure.

Pretty soon you'll be doing this ---->
thanks man..... he has been gone a year today........
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here is a video of everything enjoy!

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here are a couple updates..... i am now married happily..... went up to chicago for a couple days stopped at some junkyards and found something. a 97 trans am chilling out there all leather interior tan seats so i asked how much for these seats in this trans am 125 so i took um. here is a pic

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Good deal except for they are tan.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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Re: 90 firebird formula merges with LQ4 ( questions!!! )

Originally Posted by Shift06
Good deal except for they are tan.
lol are you serious??? i think they look good....... ill be going with a hunter green color for the paint so i think itll all come out looking sweet
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 04:46 PM
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Re: 90 firebird formula merges with LQ4 ( questions!!! )

lol Im just razzin. I like black everything though. My car is black on black and leaves black marks behind.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 12:58 AM
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Re: 90 firebird formula merges with LQ4 ( questions!!! )

question: the 89 formula 350 i just replaced the fuel pump in her so it is brand new. can i hot wire the 350 tpi fuel pump to make it work for the ls1 demands? cause hawks makes a kit i was wondering is that prety much the same pump but just runs a hot wire to make the pump put out more by putting more volts to it?


so here is what all i need to get this thing on the road.

accessories
headers
gasket kit
head bolts
oil pan kit
throttle body
sensors
t56 tranny
tranny crossmember
clutch pedal
slave cylinder
drive shaft
rear lca's/panhard
ECM
wiring harness
rad hoses
and all the little odds and ends ( still a ways to go )
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 07:40 AM
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Re: 90 firebird formula merges with LQ4 ( questions!!! )

If you replaced it with a TPI pump then yes it has to come out. TPIs operate at 44psi, while LSx require 60psi. A TPI pump may get it running, but it wont last for long

Dont bother with hotwire kits. Ive griped enough about them
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 12:01 AM
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Re: 90 firebird formula merges with LQ4 ( questions!!! )

so then what fuel pump am i to use with the stock thirdgen tank??
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 07:24 AM
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Re: 90 firebird formula merges with LQ4 ( questions!!! )

Walbro 255 or one from a 96-98 Vortec 350 truck
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