T56 crossmember that works with long tubes
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T56 crossmember that works with long tubes
What trans cross member, with torque arm relocation, will accommodate long tube headers? BMR?
Also, is there any different between torque arms from LT1 swaps vs. LS1 swaps? I assume they are all the same and I can look at any of these for my LSx project.
Also, is there any different between torque arms from LT1 swaps vs. LS1 swaps? I assume they are all the same and I can look at any of these for my LSx project.
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Re: T56 crossmember that works with long tubes
I don't think that will clear the exhaust on both sides. It needs to have a double hump.
It doesn't have a torque arm relocation either. I will break my trans if I leave it on the tailshaft.
It doesn't have a torque arm relocation either. I will break my trans if I leave it on the tailshaft.
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Re: T56 crossmember that works with long tubes
Unfortunately there isn't an option like what you are looking for. You can either have the crossmember mounted tq arm or exhaust clearance. A couple have taken the Skulte/Hawks mount and welded a tq arm mount to it then recoated everything.
I wish there was something but I think if I get that far I will run a body mounted tq arm instead. Much better IMO
I wish there was something but I think if I get that far I will run a body mounted tq arm instead. Much better IMO
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Re: T56 crossmember that works with long tubes
You or a friend can buid one, that is what i did. Not pretty butit sirvives launches at the track at 6000, i dont have pics of the TQ arm relocation mount i cut off the spohn trans swap crossmember:

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The Hawks crossmember has the double hump. But, as stated, it doesn't relocate the torque arm mount. Zone seems to be the only one who has done both.
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Re: T56 crossmember that works with long tubes
Uhg. Another reason I can't believe I'm pulling apart an 11 second 4th gen to make my '89 run. That's what happens when you can't bring yourself to part with something.
Thanks for the info, guys.
Thanks for the info, guys.
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Good job man, any plans on removing the TQ arm from the trans? Or are you not worried about it? The severe duty of my car at the track made me glad to jump on a tubular setup.
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Re: T56 crossmember that works with long tubes
Thanks. I'm not quite finished a little grinding and some paint and it will look a lot better. At the moment only 2 1/4-20 bolts hold the mount up.
I had considered it but I just want to get the car roadworthy. If I find an aftermarket TA for cheap ill probably move the mount.
I had considered it but I just want to get the car roadworthy. If I find an aftermarket TA for cheap ill probably move the mount.
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Re: T56 crossmember that works with long tubes
Ok cool, even with the stock TQ arm on my 86 TA, when i build the crossmember, i will be relocating the TQ arm from the trans, not only because it wont work for the TH400, i just dont like them tanking on my trans with a stall and cammed engine.
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My Spohn unit did not allow exhaust to clear without banging the ground...EVERYWHERE.
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Re: T56 crossmember that works with long tubes
I have the Spohn one with TA relocation aswell, and I can´t believe how they built/designed it...Did they think our LS/T56 swap cars don´t need exhaust at all or what? There is just no way to route the drivers side exhaust tube with decent clearance. I´m even starting to think about cutting out a half moon shape out of the fram rail to route the tube there. I´m trying to find oval DR Gas 2x4" exhaust tubing here in Europe, but as usual, no luck. That would help some at least.
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I tried that, the clearance still sucked.
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Spohn isn't the way to go for LS swap. And that goes for engine crossmember, too. The lack of good fit has been so well publicized that I can't believe he hasn't taken any corrective action. Hawks is blowing him away in that department.
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Re: T56 crossmember that works with long tubes
Hello,
Will this one work on ls1 with t56 & long tubes?
http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/tr...t566speed.aspx
Thanks,
Robbie
Will this one work on ls1 with t56 & long tubes?
http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/tr...t566speed.aspx
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Yes. It's what they say in the description, and what we're saying. It doesn't relocate the torque arm mount from the transmission, though.
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Re: T56 crossmember that works with long tubes
Im curious if that crossmember will hold the torque arm??
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Re: T56 crossmember that works with long tubes
I don't have any complaints with my Spohn k member. The cross member is a different story though.
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