LSx rotational drag
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Car: '88 Formula
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LSx rotational drag
So I bought this 5.3 the other day. I didn't pay much for it because I didn't hear it run. Has 130k.
Anyway, so I got it on the stand. I ripped the exhaust manifolds off, starter, accessories, etc. The kid left the torque converter on, so I went to remove that. I noticed I could rotate the motor by hand easily.
I took the torque converter off. I can grab either the flex plate, or the crank pulley with two hands and completely rotate the motor over.
Now considering everything I'm used to is a PITA to rotate even with a rotating tool that hooks on the flywheel, I'm kinda thinking this thing has very low compression?
Or it's got the lowest drag piston rings on the planet.
But since I don't know jack about LSx stuff, I figured I'd ask.
I paid $150 for this motor complete. I figure even if it needs a rebuild, that's a good price for a core.
-- Joe
Anyway, so I got it on the stand. I ripped the exhaust manifolds off, starter, accessories, etc. The kid left the torque converter on, so I went to remove that. I noticed I could rotate the motor by hand easily.
I took the torque converter off. I can grab either the flex plate, or the crank pulley with two hands and completely rotate the motor over.
Now considering everything I'm used to is a PITA to rotate even with a rotating tool that hooks on the flywheel, I'm kinda thinking this thing has very low compression?
Or it's got the lowest drag piston rings on the planet.
But since I don't know jack about LSx stuff, I figured I'd ask.
I paid $150 for this motor complete. I figure even if it needs a rebuild, that's a good price for a core.
-- Joe
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Car: 92 Z28
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Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.73 10 bolt
Re: LSx rotational drag
My LS1 I know was running when pulled. It seemed pretty easy to turn with the heads on but I don't know that I could have done it by hand. With the heads off sure. After rebuild it was much tougher, but I also bumped compression and some other stuff.
Compression is a little lower on the truck motors, depending on the heads I think around 9.5-1. You sure the heads weren't off and not properly put back on or something like that?
Compression is a little lower on the truck motors, depending on the heads I think around 9.5-1. You sure the heads weren't off and not properly put back on or something like that?
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From: Grand Rapids, MI
Car: 1985 IROC-Z
Engine: Magnacharged LS1
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Axle/Gears: Ford 9" 4:11's
Re: LSx rotational drag
Mine rolls over very easy with the plugs out. No problem grabbing the crank pulley and spin it over and it's a very low mile factory crate motor.
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From: SALEM, NH
Car: '88 Formula
Engine: LC9
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.89 9"
Re: LSx rotational drag
If I have time I'm going to put the starter on it and do a compression test. I'm guessing something north of 140psi is stock for a early 5.3?
I'm thinking of just getting a 5.7 rotating assembly and boring the block. An iron block LS1 would be a nice boost motor.
-- Joe
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Re: LSx rotational drag
Just FYI if your going to start rebuilding/machining ect Summit does have the GM 5.3 bare block for $300
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/s...Fc5ZhgodZEAIQQ
Good deal if you need one.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/s...Fc5ZhgodZEAIQQ
Good deal if you need one.
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From: SALEM, NH
Car: '88 Formula
Engine: LC9
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.89 9"
Re: LSx rotational drag
Just FYI if your going to start rebuilding/machining ect Summit does have the GM 5.3 bare block for $300
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/s...Fc5ZhgodZEAIQQ
Good deal if you need one.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/s...Fc5ZhgodZEAIQQ
Good deal if you need one.
I saw that, but it's $150 to ship it to my door, then I gotta do freeze plugs, cam bearings, galley plugs, and all that and final hone.
It's cheaper to machine the one I have.
I gotta do more reading though. I've not done any LSx stuff. I might be making some assumptions of what it's capability is..
-- Joe
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Re: LSx rotational drag
Do you feel air coming out of anywhere besides the exhaust ports? That seems way too easy.
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Axle/Gears: 3.89 9"
Re: LSx rotational drag
If I have time tomorrow night I'll do a compression test but, yeah. I was bummed. But for $150 I can't gripe.
I figure I could either make a low boost 5.3, or maybe a 400hp naturally aspirated 5.7 out of it.
-- Joe
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From: SALEM, NH
Car: '88 Formula
Engine: LC9
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.89 9"
Re: LSx rotational drag
Yeah that was too easy to spin
I can spin most used truck motors over by grabbing the balancer by hand, but its slow and I have to let compression bleed off as it turns
I can spin most used truck motors over by grabbing the balancer by hand, but its slow and I have to let compression bleed off as it turns
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From: SALEM, NH
Car: '88 Formula
Engine: LC9
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.89 9"
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Joined: Jul 1999
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From: SALEM, NH
Car: '88 Formula
Engine: LC9
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.89 9"
Re: LSx rotational drag
-- Joe
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