kevwalt22

Currently 700r4. Bought ls/4l60e. Came up on a t56 today. I need a clutch suggestion(Autocross.) I was thinking Luk gold or something from diamond. Going to look for pedals at jy. Or buy some floor mounts. Im assuming 4th gen mc will be fine. No more than 450 hp. Or should i be using something else?

in need of some guidance..thanks ahead

redmaroz

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I went with a monster clutch set up, you can normally get some pretty good deals from tick this time of year for a complete swap, so it would have a new gm slave and includes a tick master cylinder and throw out bearing along with the clutch and pressure plate. They have different levels of the clutch. I have their level 3 which is a little over kill for what I have right now. I built mine with auto cross in mind too and wanted to be able to shift at high rpm without issue so that's why I went with the tick master cylinder. I had read that the stock master cylinder can have issues sticking ect at higher rpm. As far as pedals I used a later model 3rd gen f body set, I thought they were a little beefier than the 4th gen pedals. You just have to modify the clutch pedal which is covered here. https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...e-4th-gen.html There are a couple different ways you can go about it, but this is how I did mine. And after about 5000 miles ive had 0 issues with it. But that would be my suggestion. Good luck.

kevwalt22

I was scrolling thru the tick website the other night. Going to give them a call. Thanks for the advice.

Beater79TA

You could also take a look at Centerforce. Located in AZ and they sponsor a number of autocross events around the Southwest US and nationally. We run their DYAD system on our GTA with a Tick adjustable master and 4th gen pedals.

6speedIROC

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There's a used Tick master in the classifieds..

I run a SPEC 2+ clutch and flywheel with a home-made version of the tick master. Clutch works great, but a little grabby if you're not paying attention on the the street though.

johnw999

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...ls-clutch.html

86White_T/A305

I also vote for a monster clutch and tick master combo.Both are standup companies and products. Before I jumped into the 400+whp realm i was using ls7 clutch and tick master and I will say that setup for the street was perfect and lasted quite awhile until the hard drag launches killed it. I now have a twin disc and it feels lighter than an ls7 clutch and it performs flawlessly no matter what I throw at it and best part.0 chatter even at -20* canadian winter.

QwkTrip

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There are many clutches that will hold lots of torque, my advice is choose a clutch that delivers excellent drivability. That means stick with clutches that tolerate being slipped.

I had a Textralia clutch in a 4th gen and it drove nice in slow traffic. I now have a Ram TrackR dual disc in my 3rd gen and it is more temperamental. It drives okay but has a grabby nature that requires some extra attention. Also, it smokes at the slightest amount of slip. These two things make it hard to drive slow, and the car can be a bit of a handful in rain on the drag radials. It shifts nice and drives normal after the car is rolling in 1st gear.

rickyzZ28

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I have a Textralia OZ700 and I love it. Always grab hard. I run it with a tick master cylinder as well. I have used Spec clutches as well with good results.

Tibo

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The best two routes you can take would be a complete 4th gen setup (4th gen pedals/master/slave) or thirdgen pedals, thirdgen master cylinder and late 80's cavalier slave cylinder. The best route is always to use as many off the shelf parts as possible so if something breaks its easy to replace. Otherwise the third option is you can use whatever parts you can find and then shell out $$$ to buy the tick adjustable unit. The best guy on these boards to talk to about the T56, hydraulic setups and pedals is JMD. Or search for some of the T56 threads he has been a part of.

kevwalt22

Thanks for the replies everybody. I went with tick mc and monster clutch. Now for some pedals. The jy has fewer and fewer thirdgens every year it seems going to have to bite the bullet and order online

MustangEater82

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What pedals do you guys suggest, and why for tick master cylinder, factory style slave and t56 for a 3rd gen?

I have both sets of pdeals and wondering what works best. I was thinking 3rd Gen pedals.

QwkTrip

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The 4th gen pedal has a little better pedal position and a spring assist to lighten the pedal effort when sitting in traffic. It also has the correct pin on it to connect a 4th gen master cylinder.

The Tick is really a Tilton. People use it because it is the best --- period. It has more volume for more aggressive aftermarket clutches and reliable shifts.

WTR388

Isn't that cavalier slave cyl an external slave?

MustangEater82

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I do have a tick to I have the adjustability there. Is there aNY modifications need to use third gen pedals? Or any reason to go to 4th gen pedals?

Sorry for the questions my original plan was a traditional small block and lt1 t56... I researched and had it planned. Then got a deal on an ls1 donor car, then found out on disassembly it had a tick master.

QwkTrip

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The differences,

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...ml#post5203490

You'll have to do another search if you want to see how people adapt the 3rd gen pedal to 4th gen master cylinder.

Tibo

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Yes, the cavalier clave is for an LT1 T56. I wasn't sure if he meant a T56 for his 383 TPI or a T56 for an LS that isn't listed in his sig.

Jay_rich

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4th gen pedals, tick master and a Monster Stage 4 here. The stage 4 is a bit firm gives a nice leg workout and is a bit chattery when making slow speed turns/uphill. But other than that for being a stage 4 with apparently really bad street manors from the reviews I read it isnt too bad. When it is time to change it I will be going to a twin dish though.

Jay