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Old Nov 23, 2021 | 12:54 PM
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1985 Z28 Carb'd LM7 Alternator Wiring Question

Hi there,

I've seen a lot of wiring questions asked and answered for various fuel injected combinations, but almost none for carb'd swaps.
I have an 85 Z28 with a 2005 LM7 out of a Tahoe.
I found this diagram for the 2005 Tahoe Alt.
Am I correct in thinking that pin B+S is constant 12v from the battery, pin F is load sensing/signal on when to charge, and pin L is switched 12v?
Obviously switched 12v is from the key and constant 12v is from the battery.
I believe the factory setup has a fusible link inline to the constant 12v that's also for the fans. I'm going to run the fans on their own circuit on my car, so can I just run a 100a inline fuse on the wire from the battery?
On a carb set up with no PCM/Generator Battery Control Module, what controls load sensing/tells is when to charge?
And I know the C100 block on my firewall has a purple wire for the starter, does that go direct to the starter and then from the starter there's a wire to the battery?

Thanks in advance, i really appreciate any help on this.

2005 Tahoe Alternator Wiring
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Old Nov 23, 2021 | 03:29 PM
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Re: 1985 Z28 Carb'd LM7 Alternator Wiring Question

Are you using the AD244 Alternator?
...with the 4-Pin Connector that is on the far right of the image below:


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Old Nov 23, 2021 | 03:45 PM
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Re: 1985 Z28 Carb'd LM7 Alternator Wiring Question

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Are you using the AD244 Alternator?
...with the 4-Pin Connector that is on the far right of the image below:


It's actually none of those, its this one.
But because this alternator is old and I don't know what condition it's in, I think it would be good to switch to the 4 connector/1 wire alt (far right).

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Old Nov 23, 2021 | 03:50 PM
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Re: 1985 Z28 Carb'd LM7 Alternator Wiring Question

I am going to just assume that you are using the AD244 Alternator with the Connector on the far Right of that Image.

There are multiple configurations for this Alternator...
I would recommend the following:
-The S-Terminal (letter D on the Connector) connected to B+.
-The L-Terminal (letter B on the Connector) connected to Ignition/ switched B+ through a 1/2 Watt 470 Ohm Resistor.

Please follow the Hyper-Link below:
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Old Nov 23, 2021 | 03:53 PM
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Re: 1985 Z28 Carb'd LM7 Alternator Wiring Question

You have a DR44 Alternator... it is newer than the AD244.

Yes, I would recommend going to the AD244 Alternator if you are not comfortable with de-soldering the 2-Pin Voltage Regulator...
and soldering on the 4-Pin Voltage Regulator.
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Old Nov 23, 2021 | 04:01 PM
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Re: 1985 Z28 Carb'd LM7 Alternator Wiring Question

Ok so I also asked a friend this question and basically it was explained to me that the purple wire off the c100 block goes to one of posts on the starter, the other post on the starter goes to the positive battery post, the positive battery post goes to the charging post on the alternator, and the single wire off the alternator goes to switched 12v.
Is this fairly accurate? And if so, do I need any fuses on this circuit?
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Re: 1985 Z28 Carb'd LM7 Alternator Wiring Question

First things first...
You CAN NOT use that DR44 Alternator the way that is it, with a 2-Pin Voltage Regulator.

That Voltage Regulator must be PWM Controlled by a BCM or PCM!
Do NOT just connect 12V+ to it.

You can add an Aftermarket external Voltage Regulator... but I don;t recommend it.

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Re: 1985 Z28 Carb'd LM7 Alternator Wiring Question

Originally Posted by vorteciroc
First things first...
You CAN NOT use that DR44 Alternator the way that is it, with a 2-Pin Voltage Regulator.

That Voltage Regulator must be PWM Controlled by a BCM or PCM!
Do NOT just connect 12V+ to it.

You can add an Aftermarket external Voltage Regulator... but I don;t recommend it.
Oh, I'm definitely going to swap to an AD244 single wire alternator. Having said that, would everything I said in my previous post be correct?
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Old Nov 23, 2021 | 04:13 PM
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Re: 1985 Z28 Carb'd LM7 Alternator Wiring Question

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Ok so I also asked a friend this question and basically it was explained to me that the purple wire off the c100 block goes to one of posts on the starter, the other post on the starter goes to the positive battery post, the positive battery post goes to the charging post on the alternator, and the single wire off the alternator goes to switched 12v.
Is this fairly accurate? And if so, do I need any fuses on this circuit?
The 10AWG Purple Wire is the Starter Solenoid Wire to Crank the Engine.
The Other Red Wires are simply being passed 12V+ from the Battery.
Modern Vehicles have these Wires connected to the Battery instead (with Power distribution/ fusing).
Old Vehicles had to use Fusible-Links.

The heavy gauge Wire on the Alternator goes to the Battery 12V+.
Any other small Wire on the Alternator will vary depending on Alternator model and vehicle being used.
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Old Nov 23, 2021 | 04:15 PM
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Re: 1985 Z28 Carb'd LM7 Alternator Wiring Question

So I can't use straight wire runs from component to component, I must have fusible links inline?
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Old Nov 23, 2021 | 04:42 PM
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Re: 1985 Z28 Carb'd LM7 Alternator Wiring Question

Yes your Car originally would have Fusible-Links attached at the Starter-Motor...
They transition into the 10AWG Red Wires.

You can see a Blackish Cylinder where they splice together:


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Old Nov 23, 2021 | 05:18 PM
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Re: 1985 Z28 Carb'd LM7 Alternator Wiring Question

So the starter to battery cable gets a fusible link, does the battery to alternator get one?
And does the c100 to starter solenoid get one?
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Old Nov 23, 2021 | 05:38 PM
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Re: 1985 Z28 Carb'd LM7 Alternator Wiring Question

-The 10AWG Purple Wire at the Starter Solenoid = No Fusible-Link.
-The One Large Cable from the Battery to the Starter-Motor = No Fusible-Link.

-The One Cable from the Battery to the Alternator = Yes Fusible-Link (relative to Alternator Output and Cable size).
-The 10AWG Red Wires at the Starter-Motor = Yes Fusible-Links.
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Old Nov 23, 2021 | 05:50 PM
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Re: 1985 Z28 Carb'd LM7 Alternator Wiring Question

Thanks vorteciroc, you've been a terrific help!
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Re: 1985 Z28 Carb'd LM7 Alternator Wiring Question

You are most welcome!
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