The hopes of a beautiful thirdgen start here.
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The hopes of a beautiful thirdgen start here.
hello I'm kinda new to this board, not new to cars for my age. This is my second thirdgen my first one was a complete lemon.
I have no pictures of it but it was a red tbi with a 5 speed. I bought the car for 2500 drove it 5 hours home and 4 hours in the trip it began overheating pulled over put coolant into it limped it home watching the gauge.
well 4 months the car finally left the garage. I had replaced everything. timing chain, fuel pump, injectors, numerous gaskets, timing chain, clutch, drive shaft, and ecm the car just wouldnt run right. It was extremely jerky. Finally last solution cut the cat out start the car instantly I know its fixed take it out for my first drive since I got it 4 months before. get up to 60 miles an hour viloent shake, well somehow I bent two rims coming home>????? Replaced them still shaking, all the tires balanced. Turns out it had bad ball joints one was so bad for so long that it hollowed out the spindle. got sick of this car pump went out replaced it put a g92 from and 89 firebird 3:45 gears awsome couldnt get the ebrake to work. I had it with that car sold it for 100 less then I Bought it.
Well I got kinda bored of 240sx E30s and e36s just lacked the fun.
Decided I wanted another go at a thirdgen so searched high and low. for a 5 speed tpi car. Found one was an 89 iroc lb9 g92 car looked awsome in the pictures well I ended up driving 5 hours to rust so bad I could see through the framerails, rusted out, and overheated while the test drive.
well one week later drove to parsons kansas to find this one. This car isnt perfect but its a good start in my opinion for a 19 year old I car alot about cars I'm not about speed Im about a quality of ride (got it from bimmers) The guy gave me 4000 dollars worth of reciepts. And I bought the car for 3000 It needs a pilot bushing and injectors. Its a white z28 with red leather interior L98 converted to a 5 speed. It has all new poly bushings and hotckis springs. Plans for it are sfc, all suspension I can do.. rebuild the motor stock or with very mild cam.
But for now I'm just aiming to work the kinks out. Here is my new project.



I have no pictures of it but it was a red tbi with a 5 speed. I bought the car for 2500 drove it 5 hours home and 4 hours in the trip it began overheating pulled over put coolant into it limped it home watching the gauge.
well 4 months the car finally left the garage. I had replaced everything. timing chain, fuel pump, injectors, numerous gaskets, timing chain, clutch, drive shaft, and ecm the car just wouldnt run right. It was extremely jerky. Finally last solution cut the cat out start the car instantly I know its fixed take it out for my first drive since I got it 4 months before. get up to 60 miles an hour viloent shake, well somehow I bent two rims coming home>????? Replaced them still shaking, all the tires balanced. Turns out it had bad ball joints one was so bad for so long that it hollowed out the spindle. got sick of this car pump went out replaced it put a g92 from and 89 firebird 3:45 gears awsome couldnt get the ebrake to work. I had it with that car sold it for 100 less then I Bought it.
Well I got kinda bored of 240sx E30s and e36s just lacked the fun.
Decided I wanted another go at a thirdgen so searched high and low. for a 5 speed tpi car. Found one was an 89 iroc lb9 g92 car looked awsome in the pictures well I ended up driving 5 hours to rust so bad I could see through the framerails, rusted out, and overheated while the test drive.
well one week later drove to parsons kansas to find this one. This car isnt perfect but its a good start in my opinion for a 19 year old I car alot about cars I'm not about speed Im about a quality of ride (got it from bimmers) The guy gave me 4000 dollars worth of reciepts. And I bought the car for 3000 It needs a pilot bushing and injectors. Its a white z28 with red leather interior L98 converted to a 5 speed. It has all new poly bushings and hotckis springs. Plans for it are sfc, all suspension I can do.. rebuild the motor stock or with very mild cam.
But for now I'm just aiming to work the kinks out. Here is my new project.



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Not bad man, hope you have better luck with this one for sure! I have never had any of those troubles, just TBI being a POS, so i carbed every one of them and am fixing to do the same to my new 89 RS.
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Wow that looks really good for the price. 5speed 91-92 LB9's really haul ***. I also like the black Z28 wheels. How many miles are on that thing?
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it has 162k on it he said the owner before him put a crate motor in it but you can never go off what people say. The car starts fine runs like a champ and doesnt smoke at all. Plans for the future are to rebuild the motor anyways. Also have receipts for pretty much an entire new suspension. with the last year.
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That thing looks mint dude. Good find. I really like the stance, colour and rims! I was never a fan of the stock 91-92 Z28 rims but painted black like that, brings all new means to sweet! Nice!
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Thanks for the complements. I search high and low for this car and I believe it was well worth it
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Sweet man. is it lowered?
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If you need help with anything on the car let me know, apparently we're right down the highway from each other.
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Car: 89 325is, 91 z28
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Well its been awhile since I've done anything to the car. Have been busy helping friends with their projects. But I've collected a few goodies
-ditching the t5 and got. T56
-picked up everything for black interior
-smog delete pulley
-hooker 2460'
-36 mm sway and 25 mm for rear
-quick ratio box
-ls1 brakes for the front
And I'm still saving and shopping
-ditching the t5 and got. T56
-picked up everything for black interior
-smog delete pulley
-hooker 2460'
-36 mm sway and 25 mm for rear
-quick ratio box
-ls1 brakes for the front
And I'm still saving and shopping
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Re: The hopes of a beautiful thirdgen start here.
You and I had similar experiences....I purchased a 1989 IROC 5.7 11 years ago and spent $500 a month fixing the darn thing. In the end I figured I spent about $900 a month owning the car!!! Ended up trading it in for a BMW which has been an awesome car but there is something about the third gen I just love.....Went out and picked up a 1988 IROC last February and it has been just awesome!! No issues at all (not a DD though)....At this point I have a Durango R/T, a Mercedes CLK 430 convertible, BMW 325i and the IROC....guess which one is parked in the garage??? LOL!
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You said that was a 5.7 converted to a stick. That thing must haul!!!
Good find. Not to brag took me three days to find a perfect 91 Z.
Good find. Not to brag took me three days to find a perfect 91 Z.
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Yeah its a l98 checked the rpo codes, the vin, and under the hood to make sure. It does pretty well just needs better gears. Got great mileage comeing home close to 25 all highway.
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Dont beat on the T5 too hard, it will break, but as long as you dont power shift it all the time it should last a while. I think all V8 sports cars that aren't used exclusively for drag racing should have manuals. It's just way too much fun to bang em through the gears when there's that much torque behind it.
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good luck on the new project!
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well they previous owner pretty much destroyed this transmission I believe. I hear gears whining at idle and they dont sound any better going up from there. So I found a t56 and just locating some other parts and it'll be ready to go in.
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Great Find man!
Wish I could find a 5 Speed over here! I own 3 third gens... and not a single one is stick... FML.
Good Luck on the car.
Wish I could find a 5 Speed over here! I own 3 third gens... and not a single one is stick... FML.
Good Luck on the car.
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well Its been A long time since I've updated. I still haven't driven the car more then the distance home and maybe a few times around the parking lot.
I've been extremely busy with projects for others, Friends bmw cracked a head, girlfriend vw golf motor had it. That cars just a lemon though just constantly needing something.
And now I pulled in my dads 77 camaro to rebuild the front end. Was gunna be a simple job until I looking at the driver side lower control arm mount. Turns our someone must have wrecked this car or ditched because the bracket had clearly been cut off and some metal welded back on. Well I didn't want to send this car out with the amount of power its putting down it could get someone hurt. So I ended up just pulling the trigger on pulling the subframe. Heres it present condition I'm kinda trying to rush so I did this in roughly two days. (this was a running driving car before this.)

Ill get some picture when its done. Its 1977 camaro z28 with a muncie 4 speed, 350 bored .030 over with more work, Brodix heads with 2.02 and 1.96 valves and abit of porting, full comp aluminum roller rockers. 468 lift cam, and a demon 650or 750 I dont remember right now. This car makes me very jealous of that power.
I've been extremely busy with projects for others, Friends bmw cracked a head, girlfriend vw golf motor had it. That cars just a lemon though just constantly needing something.
And now I pulled in my dads 77 camaro to rebuild the front end. Was gunna be a simple job until I looking at the driver side lower control arm mount. Turns our someone must have wrecked this car or ditched because the bracket had clearly been cut off and some metal welded back on. Well I didn't want to send this car out with the amount of power its putting down it could get someone hurt. So I ended up just pulling the trigger on pulling the subframe. Heres it present condition I'm kinda trying to rush so I did this in roughly two days. (this was a running driving car before this.)

Ill get some picture when its done. Its 1977 camaro z28 with a muncie 4 speed, 350 bored .030 over with more work, Brodix heads with 2.02 and 1.96 valves and abit of porting, full comp aluminum roller rockers. 468 lift cam, and a demon 650or 750 I dont remember right now. This car makes me very jealous of that power.
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Well heres some updates on My camaro.
Other then its been sitting. Ive been saving and collecting alot of parts and still have alot more I plan to get.
Picked up a pbr caliper 10 bolt out of a 91 camaro with 3:42 gears I just rebuilt with all new seals, bearings, pads and rotors. Also went ahead and got a ta cover and a set of ss brake lines. I spent a bit of time cleaning it up and everything else I almost dont want to put it under a car.


Other then its been sitting. Ive been saving and collecting alot of parts and still have alot more I plan to get.
Picked up a pbr caliper 10 bolt out of a 91 camaro with 3:42 gears I just rebuilt with all new seals, bearings, pads and rotors. Also went ahead and got a ta cover and a set of ss brake lines. I spent a bit of time cleaning it up and everything else I almost dont want to put it under a car.


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And here are all the parts Ive picked up some not pictured
quick ratio steering box
36mm, and 25mm sway bars.
Everything for ls1 brakes on the front.
Most of everything for black interior except carpet and a center console.
Spohn Tubular boxed lower control arms, Adjustable panhard bar.
Umi boxed subframe connectors and wonder bar
poly bushings for sway bars and endlinks
russell's ss brake lines
random tech adjustable torque arm
6 speed from a 95 firebird with b&m ripper shifter
Ceramic coated headers







quick ratio steering box
36mm, and 25mm sway bars.
Everything for ls1 brakes on the front.
Most of everything for black interior except carpet and a center console.
Spohn Tubular boxed lower control arms, Adjustable panhard bar.
Umi boxed subframe connectors and wonder bar
poly bushings for sway bars and endlinks
russell's ss brake lines
random tech adjustable torque arm
6 speed from a 95 firebird with b&m ripper shifter
Ceramic coated headers







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also Plan on ordering some koni shocks soon tubular front control arms and debating on whether not to get a tubular front crossmember
also Need a clutch for the t56, sgi box, and clutch hydros
probably alot more. Hope to actually get to do some work on her soon. thanks for reading all of this nonsense
also Need a clutch for the t56, sgi box, and clutch hydros
probably alot more. Hope to actually get to do some work on her soon. thanks for reading all of this nonsense
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well Got a new camaro today. Great condition 1992 heritage edition z28.
thanks to ebay.


also only paid 28.99 for it.
thanks to ebay.


also only paid 28.99 for it.
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also here are some photos of my paps '77 z28 This was before it was torn down for abit of work.



currently the car is gutted had some pin holes in the floorboard so I decided to cut it out and replace it. also going to clean the firewall up weld some holes up. Its awaiting a new motor as well. Alot of work has gone into this car.



currently the car is gutted had some pin holes in the floorboard so I decided to cut it out and replace it. also going to clean the firewall up weld some holes up. Its awaiting a new motor as well. Alot of work has gone into this car.
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Very nice projects!! Keep em coming!
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Car: 89 325is, 91 z28
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Re: The hopes of a beautiful thirdgen start here.
well finally after almost two years of just looking
at the car and rarely getting to even enjoy the pleasure of just moving it around. I got tired of it and decided I was going to start making some serious headway. So I found a garage for rent about 6 miles from my house. So finally here are some progress shots right now its the boring stuff just dis-assembly.
heres a shot of the interior after sitting for ever
after tearing it apart

at the car and rarely getting to even enjoy the pleasure of just moving it around. I got tired of it and decided I was going to start making some serious headway. So I found a garage for rent about 6 miles from my house. So finally here are some progress shots right now its the boring stuff just dis-assembly.
heres a shot of the interior after sitting for ever
after tearing it apart
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heres a shot of the wall of parts. I dont really know what do with all of them Most of them I won't be using again.

I'm also working on removing the undercoating which is the worst job I know everyone says this. But until you get under there and start doing it. It just sucks.


I've completely stripped the car of all its suspension, interior, fenders, and most the drivetrain

Just ordered some koni sports to top of all the suspension goodies this car is going to get. along with a tubular crossmember and control arms I bought from spohn when they where having the independence day sale.
I'm also working on removing the undercoating which is the worst job I know everyone says this. But until you get under there and start doing it. It just sucks.
I've completely stripped the car of all its suspension, interior, fenders, and most the drivetrain
Just ordered some koni sports to top of all the suspension goodies this car is going to get. along with a tubular crossmember and control arms I bought from spohn when they where having the independence day sale.
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well these were dropped off by the ups man ordered them yesterday at 10 am with normal ground shipping and they arrived today at 1. thanks to tireracks fast shipping. also great price 645 shipped.
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Cool build, Do it right, do it once! Cant wait to see the final product.
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well been busy with the car lately finally feel like I'm making some progress, in the past few weeks I ended up pulling the motor to make the suspension rebuild easier and cleaning as well. So I decided against putting it back in stock,
so I'm having the heads rebuild and ill be doing some porting and right now I'm searching for a super ram to replace the stock tpi setup, and a doing a gasket overhaul along with a new cam and lifter.

so While waiting for the heads I cleaned the firewall and painted it white, I dont really like how it turned out so I might redo it;


and finished cleaning the and coating the front fenderwells I'm very excited about this

these photos are with just the first coat

sorry the lighting isnt the best.
so I'm having the heads rebuild and ill be doing some porting and right now I'm searching for a super ram to replace the stock tpi setup, and a doing a gasket overhaul along with a new cam and lifter.
so While waiting for the heads I cleaned the firewall and painted it white, I dont really like how it turned out so I might redo it;
and finished cleaning the and coating the front fenderwells I'm very excited about this
these photos are with just the first coat
sorry the lighting isnt the best.
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well today I mounted my tubular subframe very exciting seeing something go back onto the car.

once the pro kit gets here I can start putting the front end back together.
once the pro kit gets here I can start putting the front end back together.
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well I wanted to finish the front suspension today but had so much trouble getting just the passenger side spring in that I wasnt able to start on the driver side. seriously is it that hard? I was worried the the compressor was going to break, I had pulled it down so far. Scratched some of the powder coating kinda bummed about that.
I also Dont like the red strut boot but I couldnt find them in any other color locally Probably will change this out once the motor is back in.

I also got the power booster and steering box cleaned and painted so went ahead and installed them to relieve some anger from the springs.
I also Dont like the red strut boot but I couldnt find them in any other color locally Probably will change this out once the motor is back in.
I also got the power booster and steering box cleaned and painted so went ahead and installed them to relieve some anger from the springs.
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I love your project man, great job!! It makes me want to pull my suspension out and redo it and my engine compartment.
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well got the other side done today, also mounted the sway bar and wonder bar, I would have done the steering but I think something is wrong with the center link I got in the spohn rebuild kit its very tight and I had to unbolt the idle arm and put it on the center link and bolt it down and it pulls down really hard.

so the front suspension is pretty much done.
so the front suspension is pretty much done.
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as well As making decent progress on the car today, I got my major piece for the motor, wasnt planning on building the motor just yet but Since I pulled it I decided to do some work.
So far I've ported the stock heads and are at the machine shop being machined to accept a larger cam, The cam I'm going with is a lunati .489/.489 112 lsa dont remember the duration right now and a super ram which I got the top half today

still looking for the base and a set of 1.52 sa roller rockers.
So far I've ported the stock heads and are at the machine shop being machined to accept a larger cam, The cam I'm going with is a lunati .489/.489 112 lsa dont remember the duration right now and a super ram which I got the top half today
still looking for the base and a set of 1.52 sa roller rockers.
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And I'm sorry for the lack of quality photos I use my droid x
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From: O'Fallon, MO
Car: 1991 Z28 convertible built 3/1/1990
Engine: Cammed 6.0L LSX
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: custom Ford 8.8", 4.10 gears
Re: The hopes of a beautiful thirdgen start here.
Hey I know someone selling a complete stealth ram setup in st peters for $700. If you're interested I can give you his phone number.
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From: Central Connecticut
Car: 91 Trans Am 'vert
Engine: LB9
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.45 9 bolt
Re: The hopes of a beautiful thirdgen start here.
Great find man! Good to see you giving it lots of love.







