Getting past emissions ...
Getting past emissions ...
So ... the age old topic. Does anyone here have illegal emission setups? What do you people do to get away with it?
What's this about the under 5k rule? Is there a way to keep it under 5k and stop the odometer? I know it's a pretty illegal thing to do, but you know ... Don't they still do a visual inspection though?
I have an 86 and I'm pretty sure I need something over 25 to get classic tags ...
Are there really easy ways to get around this **** or do you all just know crookid mechanics?
Asking because I don't think I have smog setup, no computer, and I don't know if I'll have a cat on in january. Better start taking bids on mechanics ... senail one, half *** shop, some mennonite ...
What's this about the under 5k rule? Is there a way to keep it under 5k and stop the odometer? I know it's a pretty illegal thing to do, but you know ... Don't they still do a visual inspection though?
I have an 86 and I'm pretty sure I need something over 25 to get classic tags ...
Are there really easy ways to get around this **** or do you all just know crookid mechanics?
Asking because I don't think I have smog setup, no computer, and I don't know if I'll have a cat on in january. Better start taking bids on mechanics ... senail one, half *** shop, some mennonite ...
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I've got the smae problem, but I do know a crooked mechanic who gives stickers for an extra cost for non-emissions legal cars. He gave my friend one who is running hooker lt headers with an x pipe and hooker aerochamber mufflers. Your best bet is to go to a junk yard and find a newly junked car that might have a good sticker on it.
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Car: 1995 Formula; 1976 Trans Am
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Uhhh...reusing old inspection stickers and paying for crooked ones is risky business. Unless you are a pro drag race driver who needs to lose an extra 10th in the quarter so you can win some cash to feed your family, just build your car right so it makes power and still passes the sniffer.
I wouldn't go as far as using old stickers ...
But if I'm exempt (5k rule), do they still do the visual check? I want to know so I can either rip out the AIR remains or put in the other half I don't have and other stuff.
But if I'm exempt (5k rule), do they still do the visual check? I want to know so I can either rip out the AIR remains or put in the other half I don't have and other stuff.
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Car: 1995 Formula; 1976 Trans Am
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I sold some stock parts for an old '77 GP to a guy from PA once. He told me that he needed to have stocke emissions equipment present on his car for your state's inspection. So my guess, if he needed it for a '77, is that you'll need it for your thirdgen.
Go to your state's DOE webiste and read the info on incpestions, it should tell you what they check for cars, old and new.
Go to your state's DOE webiste and read the info on incpestions, it should tell you what they check for cars, old and new.
I also noticed that you need to own it for one year to be exempt, do they actually check this?! I only had it for about 5 months in Jan.
If not, I'm gonna go for classic tags, anyone know the full story on this?
If not, I'm gonna go for classic tags, anyone know the full story on this?
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From: New York
Car: 1987 IROC
Engine: 350 Gm H.O
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I know state farm gives classic car insurance to pretty much any car. That's because I got the classic insurance from them and it's only $200 dollars a year and I have an 1987 Iroc. The only restriction is that you can only drive 2500 miles a year.But whos looking to make sure.
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From: South East Michigan
Car: 1986 Firebird / 1985 Trans-Am
Engine: 305 4BBL / 383 4BBL++
Transmission: 700R4 / 700R4
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I had many issues with emissions. I really dreaded the test.
So, I finally just moved to Michigan.
Actually, didn't move their for emissions, moved their for work. But the emissions is a bonus.
Big Bonus...
Winters Suck though.
So, I finally just moved to Michigan.
Actually, didn't move their for emissions, moved their for work. But the emissions is a bonus.
Big Bonus...
Winters Suck though.
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From: Little Meadows, PA, USA
Car: 1988 IROC-Z
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Transmission: 700R4
You can find the forms needed for a classic plate on PennDot's website at:
http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/forms/index.shtml
The form is MV-11. The second page of the form gives all of the terms and conditions for this registration. The nice thing about this is that there is no emissions inspection. It's also a permanent registration -no renewals. There could be a problem with "classic" registration if your car is significantly modified, as the definition contains this wording: "condition which is substantially in conformity with manufacturer specifications and appearance."
If that is the case, you would go for the "collectible" registration. That does require photos of the engine compartment showing that the pollution controls are still there.
I have five cars (2 2nd Gens, 3 3rd gens) registered as classic. It saves me alot of paperwork and registration fees. Since I only use those cars for shows and the like, I never violate the restrictions.
http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/forms/index.shtml
The form is MV-11. The second page of the form gives all of the terms and conditions for this registration. The nice thing about this is that there is no emissions inspection. It's also a permanent registration -no renewals. There could be a problem with "classic" registration if your car is significantly modified, as the definition contains this wording: "condition which is substantially in conformity with manufacturer specifications and appearance."
If that is the case, you would go for the "collectible" registration. That does require photos of the engine compartment showing that the pollution controls are still there.
I have five cars (2 2nd Gens, 3 3rd gens) registered as classic. It saves me alot of paperwork and registration fees. Since I only use those cars for shows and the like, I never violate the restrictions.
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Car: 89' IROC-Z
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Transmission: 700R4
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From: Lebanon, PA
Car: 86 IROC, 04 Ram, 05 SRT-4, 95 CBR
Engine: LB9, 5.7 Hemi, 2.4 turbo, 600cc
Transmission: 700-R4
Axle/Gears: 26 spline 3.42's for now
I'm in Lebanon County and I think Lancaster's testing is the same as ours. The main thing is if you want exemption, you have to either register as classic or keep it under 5k miles a year, that's what I do. If you go classic, you're car needs to be 15 years old or older. My friend did it with his 89 IROC 2 years ago. Cops in town were pissed when they tried to nail him with illegal tags and got the paperwork smacked in their face!!! As for the mileage, they have to verify it with your inspection sticker from the year before (mileage is written on the back). The emissions test is just a visual. So if you make it look like you're running legal emissions they can't say anything. You still have to pay a $20 exemption fee, this is B/S!!! After you leave, pull all the crap back off and go ballz out again!
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