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Nice shot of the dual cats and the bluebirds.
What're your plans for it?
Part it out? Drive it?

 

first and foremost. shoot and kill VATS. secondly, every time i look at it i see more and more the potential it has. im gonna attempt to find what the knock is. and go from there. either rebuild, or buy a rebuilt engine. im thinking spun bearing.

but after only a few hours of me being under the hood yesterday, vats disabled my ***** >=/ and the security light is still on

AND if you can see that white spot in on the fender. thats one of the shitttiest bondo jobs ever for a not so serious dent.

 

Is this your first TPI?
I'm sure it'd be a lot peppier than the '86 if it ran right.
Where in the bay are you? I was out there all day yesterday.

 

yup first tpi.

ive had an 91 RS v6, 84 z28 l69, 84 t/a l69, 86 lg4.

yeah the 86 is just torquey and loud. thats about it. how do i know which lb9 this is?

 

wow, about time you stepped it up to TPI after all those less desirable motors.

how do you mean which LB9?
your RPO's said it had the G92 package, right?

91 Z28
Formula
Trans Am
GTA M5 LB9 V8 5.0 (305) hp 230@4200 tq 300@3200 TPI ---- 3.42

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91 Z28
Formula
Trans Am
GTA M5 LB9 V8 9.3:1 5.0 (305) 230@4200 300@3200 TPI ---- 3.42

91 Z28
Formula
Trans Am
GTA A4 L98 V8 9.3:1 5.7 (350) 245@4400 345@3200 TPI ---- 3.23

i meant which one of those two... and no, i dont have G92

 

oh and im in san francisco

 

The 2nd option you listed is for 5.7's.
You have the one I listed.

In the other post, you posted "R6P", which is:

First used in 1991, the R6P Performance Enhancement Group option consisted of the KC4 oil cooler, the N10 dual converter exhaust, and the performance axle ratio..... whereas the G92 Performance Axle Ratio package included equipment specified for sanctioned, off-road competition: the aforementioned performance axle ratio, plus an aluminum prop shaft, specific fuel tank with high wall reservoirs, specific fuel sender, wide-strainer fuel pump, and specific 12" vented front disc brakes. This option package was available on all Formula and Trans Am models, but not the GTA.

Available on the 5.0L V8s and standard on the 5.7L, the R6P package was required on T/A models when the G92 option was ordered.

 

crap i copied the wrong one i meant this.....


91 Z28
Formula
Trans Am
GTA M5,A4 LB9 V8 9.3:1 5.0 (305) 205@4200 285@3200 TPI 3.08

91 Z28
Formula
Trans Am
GTA M5 LB9 V8 9.3:1 5.0 (305) 230@4200 300@3200 TPI 3.42

 

I knew what you meant, and if you have 3.42 gears, your answer is right there bud.

 

yeah, you make sense. i guess i mis-read or was thinking something else.

thanks for helping me clear that up del!

 

Great find, I say fix it up and make it the best $600 3rd gen ever.
Maybe the banshee nose will grow on me, but the rest has potential!

 

i hated that nose, but its starting to grow on me Fast. yeah im leaning towards that. im even startin to look at my car to see what i can transplant lol.

 

banshee

I like both style noses. I like the older style better, looks a little more sinister

 

Car looks great Ron!

A little paint, a new deck (I would recommend a 4th gen Pontiac CD player) and some engine work and you will be advertising a two tone bird for sale methinks

Honestly I would just get the correct key for your car and KEEP the VATS, it rocks and might just be the difference between no car or a stolen stereo.

 

I'm not a fan of the '91+ style nose either, but if you know the Pontiac history behind it, makes it a bit more interesting, knowing how it came about.

The front end was derived from a concept car that came out in 1988 that showed the direction the Firebirds would be in the future, including the early 4th gens+.
Here's a quick narrative and a pic of it.

The Pontiac Banshee is a concept car designed by General Motors and unveiled in 1988. Known within GM as the Banshee IV, it was actually the fourth in a series of concept cars beginning in 1966. The Banshee name first appeared in the '60s as a code name for the forthcoming '67 Pontiac Firebird, companion to the '67 Chevrolet Camaro.
Like its predecessors, it was intended to establish exterior and interior design themes that would be modified for production versions of the Pontiac Firebird and Pontiac Trans Am sports cars. The Banshee IV successfully influenced the overall appearance especially the fourth generation of those cars.

 

Fear the Banshee!!!



There isn't another car-form I love more.

 

Banshee is cool in my book.

 

yea maybe.... i just took the lock cylinder out cuz its gone bad anyway. its spins freely. i have two of the VATS keys... wonder how much it would be for a new lock cylinder.
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my thoughts exactly

 

got my new (used) steering column today. woohoo! the turn signal stalk is in great shape.... only thing is yellow lettering in a firebird =/

61 bucks plus shipping on ebay. came from a 91 z28 5 speed. should work right?

 

Sweet, I never liked the yellow print in the z28's though.

 

coming along nicely. been workin on it few days at a time, couple hours at a time. like i said, im not a whiz at pulling motors like Trav is
just gotta finish unbolting the exhaust and the t-5 and the motor will be out

 

too bad its a bird

 

too bad for who? lol

 

haha.
preach.

 

im just gonna keep posting progress and questions here for the sake of starting up bunches of threads. i have tons of faith in you guys, my west coast brethren, which is why i post here more then i do in other engine/tech forums.

while im here.... ive heard of this product thats a paint/ rust proofer that you can spray over rust and it will harden it (something to that effect) and you can hammer the shitt out of it and it will hold up. anyone else hear about somethin similar?

 

Por-15 is a roll on but basicly the same thing and works awesome.

 

I know what your talking about Ron, Kragen sells it. Can't tell you how well it works, worth a try however.

 

I have some stuff for rust proofing. It's milky looking, but turns black when it hits rust. Dries nice, and is super paintable afterwards. I touched up a couple of spots under my hood while I am repainting everything.

BTW, I live in Frisco too! Where abouts are you? Maybe you can come check out my ride one of these days. Or if you need a hand, I've been through a few TPI 3rd gen's before, but never as far as I have with this one. Everything is out except the shortblock. Just saving the funds for then 383. Lots of other goodies going on too. Anyway, good luck with the new car.

 

was it you that had your car stolen a couple years ago off of monterey blvd?

 

No. I had my 86 totalled on Monterey and Gennessee when some bitch rear-ended me. And someone stole the faceplate out of my IROC right after I bought it. But never had one stolen.

 

So how is it going with the new addition, Ron?

 

shitty. i guess it was another board member then.

 

My buddy had his black 84 stolen just down the street off of foerster a couple years back

 

so far it hasnt moved what with the rain and all. now im concentrating on gifts for xmas, that and its like it only rains on weekends. and i work m-f.... and now is a super busy time for me as you can imagine since i work at UPS. heres a tip

USE USPS for your xmas gifts!! less people handling your packages = less likely to be damaged/ less like to be lost.
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damn yeah i remember reading that somewhere... me im over by san jose ave kinda by plymouth. you should do my rear brakes for me

 

Yep, I know and use the spray can version of the rust stuff you're talking about. I know some proffesional body people who do specialized restoration work that also use it.
Apparently there's a BIG/Significant difference in manufacturers, making some name brands great and others a big mistake. I'll run down to my garage and grab some so I can get the correct name. I purchase mine from a body and paint supply store. POR-15 is a great product with a well earned reputation and I'm using both products on a 1941 Dodge Army Weapons' Carrier Jeep/Truck that I'm restoring for my wife's family. Hang on.....

Well, my paint supply cabinet is currently blocked by the SUV, and I don't want to wake up the wife and her nicely breasted sister (damn that was a great evening in front of the fire....) so I'll have to wait till later today to unblock the cabinet and pull out the correct name.

Off the top of my head I think it's by the:SEM company and they call the product 'Rust-Mort'. They also make a brushable solution beside the spray. Great suff!
Nitro

 

fireplace... 1 hour away from me... and rust protection products..... im THERE! haha

 

Yah, the family therapist is not very happy with me.....

Nitro

 

You forgot the sister!

 

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