update on car
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From: Plano IL
Car: 92 Firebird,74 Nova
Engine: Stock tbi,Vortec 350
Transmission: T56, th350
Axle/Gears: 3.73 LSD, 2.73 open
update on car (suspension is now done)
Began the suspension tonight on the 92 firebird, links to the the car is in my sig
The panhard rod starts to be removed

The panhard is out in this pic, removed rather easy since most of my bolts were not that rusted

Removed the sway bar the cordless sawzawl came in handy again. The stock sway bar and panhard verse the old stuff little better I would say.

The lower control arms are getting removed, damn thing fell out breaking the cheap plastic craftsman shop light it still works so I guess its not that bad.

The new lower control arm compared to the stock stamped steal piece

Lower control arms in place

Pic of the stuff installed

another from under

Nothing is torque down yet im just gonna do them all at once, still have to install the torque arm, front sway bars, wonder bar, B&G sport comp springs, and bilstein shocks and struts gonna do a brake job while its all apart and repack the bearings. Need to buy some more tools, need a torque wrench
The panhard rod starts to be removed

The panhard is out in this pic, removed rather easy since most of my bolts were not that rusted

Removed the sway bar the cordless sawzawl came in handy again. The stock sway bar and panhard verse the old stuff little better I would say.

The lower control arms are getting removed, damn thing fell out breaking the cheap plastic craftsman shop light it still works so I guess its not that bad.

The new lower control arm compared to the stock stamped steal piece

Lower control arms in place

Pic of the stuff installed

another from under

Nothing is torque down yet im just gonna do them all at once, still have to install the torque arm, front sway bars, wonder bar, B&G sport comp springs, and bilstein shocks and struts gonna do a brake job while its all apart and repack the bearings. Need to buy some more tools, need a torque wrench
Last edited by novadk13; Feb 15, 2005 at 11:10 PM.
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Car: 92 Firebird,74 Nova
Engine: Stock tbi,Vortec 350
Transmission: T56, th350
Axle/Gears: 3.73 LSD, 2.73 open
For the front springs my haynes manual says you need to remove the pivot bolts to remove the springs so basically remove the whole lower control arm, no other way?
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no, just make sure the car is high enough that you can let the arm swing down. put the jack under the control arm, then remove the strut and spindle. the SLOWLY lower the control arm, its a good idea to wrap a chain around the spring so it doesnt go anywhere, and stand off to the side, kinda like playing with a loaded gun
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Car: 92 Firebird,74 Nova
Engine: Stock tbi,Vortec 350
Transmission: T56, th350
Axle/Gears: 3.73 LSD, 2.73 open
Shocks and springs out

The stock out, bilsteins going in

Shocks and springs in just need to get a torque wrench and a 21mm socket and Im almost done in the rear all I will need to do is adjust the panhard so that each side has the same amount of tire sticking out.

The stock out, bilsteins going in

Shocks and springs in just need to get a torque wrench and a 21mm socket and Im almost done in the rear all I will need to do is adjust the panhard so that each side has the same amount of tire sticking out.
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Car: 91 GTA, 91 Formula, 89 TTA
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Transmission: all OD
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Looks rea familiar to a certain Formula 350(lol) that I know of now :-) Forget a brake job and do the LS1 swap. It;s easy and pretty cheap to do ...........Besides it looks better and fills the rim up wiht brakes :-)
later
Jeremy
later
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keep up the good work dave!
looking good..
you should try to sell your non adjustable panhard bar on the boards? or somewhere in the classifieds..
let me know when you planning installing that torque arm..
i wanna view this first hand and see how it's done when i do mine
looking good..
you should try to sell your non adjustable panhard bar on the boards? or somewhere in the classifieds..
let me know when you planning installing that torque arm..
i wanna view this first hand and see how it's done when i do mine
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Yeah I need to post the panhard since I dont need it, Got the sway bar in and torqued down all the bolts allt thats left in back is adjusting the panhard what size are the 2 bolts on the struts is that a 23mm?
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Originally posted by xpndbl3
looking good so far buddy.
looking good so far buddy.
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Axle/Gears: 3.73 LSD, 2.73 open
Everything off down to the spindles

Stock spring out

New Bilstein strut in and the new spring in

All in back together

Stock spring out

New Bilstein strut in and the new spring in

All in back together
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Shoulda done the brake swap while u were there :-)
Woulda been easy and they look real big lol
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Woulda been easy and they look real big lol
later
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Car: 92 Firebird,74 Nova
Engine: Stock tbi,Vortec 350
Transmission: T56, th350
Axle/Gears: 3.73 LSD, 2.73 open
Originally posted by 3.8TransAM
Shoulda done the brake swap while u were there :-)
Woulda been easy and they look real big lol
later
Jeremy
Shoulda done the brake swap while u were there :-)
Woulda been easy and they look real big lol
later
Jeremy
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Car: 92 Firebird,74 Nova
Engine: Stock tbi,Vortec 350
Transmission: T56, th350
Axle/Gears: 3.73 LSD, 2.73 open
The stock stuff is out

The new wonder bar and front sway bar

The new stuff in hopefully handle as well as I think it will, all thats left is the torque arm and SFC's

The new wonder bar and front sway bar

The new stuff in hopefully handle as well as I think it will, all thats left is the torque arm and SFC's
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lookin good. youre well on the way to a handling beast. i might be looking to sell my ls1 calipers/carriers/ and brackets if youre interested
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Looks awesome so far. When your done u wanna come over and put all that in for me????
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Transmission: all OD
Axle/Gears: Always the good ones
Need to take a few pics of mine while its still airborne in the garage lol...
Almost same setup. Ordering a panhard(adj) and a wonderbar when I order too....
later
Jeremy
Almost same setup. Ordering a panhard(adj) and a wonderbar when I order too....
later
Jeremy
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Car: 92 Firebird,74 Nova
Engine: Stock tbi,Vortec 350
Transmission: T56, th350
Axle/Gears: 3.73 LSD, 2.73 open
Originally posted by 911rsq
Looks awesome so far. When your done u wanna come over and put all that in for me????
Looks awesome so far. When your done u wanna come over and put all that in for me????
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Transmission: T56, th350
Axle/Gears: 3.73 LSD, 2.73 open
well the stock torque arm is out and I have about half the new stuff on, aside from the vett servo these are the last mods for my car fo a while. I got an engine for my IMPORT truck and most of my time and money will be going towards that, so hopefully by this coming fall my 350 will be getting some work done to it for the winter swap. Also my house is suppose to be done withen the next 3 months so I need to work some more saturdays
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Car: 91 Camaro RS 383
Engine: carbed 383
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi
Hey lookin good. Wish i had the money to do all that right now. It will be nice to have another thirdgen in town when you get your house done.
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Car: 92 Firebird,74 Nova
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Transmission: T56, th350
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Originally posted by BAD91CamaroRS
Hey lookin good. Wish i had the money to do all that right now. It will be nice to have another thirdgen in town when you get your house done.
Hey lookin good. Wish i had the money to do all that right now. It will be nice to have another thirdgen in town when you get your house done.
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Originally posted by BAD91CamaroRS
Yeah thats cool... I'm always willing to help out if I have the time... when you planning on doing that?
Yeah thats cool... I'm always willing to help out if I have the time... when you planning on doing that?
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HEY. glad to see the project movin along. if you havn't purchased
a torque wrench yet you can use mine after all you are only 3 mins from my house. if that
also if you need any other tools let me know i most likely have it
retired but still young g.m. technician
decided to hang up the daily bloody nuckles
now i'm a advisor (i deal with pissed off people all day woohoo)
"it costs how much!?!? you !@#$%^&*()" hehe
a torque wrench yet you can use mine after all you are only 3 mins from my house. if that
also if you need any other tools let me know i most likely have it
retired but still young g.m. technician
decided to hang up the daily bloody nuckles
now i'm a advisor (i deal with pissed off people all day woohoo)
"it costs how much!?!? you !@#$%^&*()" hehe
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Car: 92 Firebird,74 Nova
Engine: Stock tbi,Vortec 350
Transmission: T56, th350
Axle/Gears: 3.73 LSD, 2.73 open
I got a new torque wrench when I started the project, nice for a craftsman has a sight dial unlike my dads old snap-on.
The last piece is in WOOOOOOOO got the torue arm in tonight, had to cut some of the stock mount down a bit but turned out alright. All I have to do I adjust the torque arm so I have a -1 degree difference from the trans to the diff. All I plan to do now is get those GTA rims off Mean57


The last piece is in WOOOOOOOO got the torue arm in tonight, had to cut some of the stock mount down a bit but turned out alright. All I have to do I adjust the torque arm so I have a -1 degree difference from the trans to the diff. All I plan to do now is get those GTA rims off Mean57


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Car: 91 GTA, 91 Formula, 89 TTA
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Transmission: all OD
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Man,
When u gonna shove something under that hood that will let u get enough speed to really work that suspension? lol
j/k
looking good, you and I have about the same setup now, least as far as suspension goes.
later
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When u gonna shove something under that hood that will let u get enough speed to really work that suspension? lol
j/k
looking good, you and I have about the same setup now, least as far as suspension goes.
later
Jeremy
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Car: 92 Firebird,74 Nova
Engine: Stock tbi,Vortec 350
Transmission: T56, th350
Axle/Gears: 3.73 LSD, 2.73 open
Originally posted by 3.8TransAM
Man,
When u gonna shove something under that hood that will let u get enough speed to really work that suspension? lol
j/k
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Man,
When u gonna shove something under that hood that will let u get enough speed to really work that suspension? lol
j/k
later
Jeremy
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Car: 92 Firebird,74 Nova
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Transmission: T56, th350
Axle/Gears: 3.73 LSD, 2.73 open
Holy crap
drove around the hood today (no insurance yet) and this is like night and day, was taking turns at 40 hardly if not any body roll
def worth the time and money, this thing is great, just need to get some new rims and better tires now
drove around the hood today (no insurance yet) and this is like night and day, was taking turns at 40 hardly if not any body roll
def worth the time and money, this thing is great, just need to get some new rims and better tires now
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Man thats sweet. I hope one day I can have all that stuff under my car. And since u are a pro at doing it feel free to come by and help lol. Hey i just noticed that your jack and stands are the same color as the car. Thats cool
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