Well I've settled with ICBC for my 87 camaro that got wrecked. They gave me $4000 for it which I am satisfied with. I put probably about $3000 into it. I'm not sure what to buy. Seems like every iroc or gta is at least $7000. I'd like a 305 tpi (bird or camaro) with a 5-speed and t-tops in good condition. What do you guys think I should pay for that? The v6's are cheap however and I may settle with another.

Btw here's a pic with a crappy webcam of my former camaro:



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*DECEASED*
87 Camaro Sport Coupe/2.8L Auto

 

got my GTA for 4800$ perfect condition except it had 218000 km on it but it still runs strong.Definitely buy a Bird,"sorry guys but i just prefer the birds"

 

Oh , I'll go shopping with you !!!

 

Bet no one can beat the performance I got for the price I paid on my 83 Z28 ...

But there are a few decent Camaro's in Canada for sale the last time I looked around

 

This is probably blasphemy.. but should I grab a Fiero? They're all like under $2000 the ones in the paper.

 

Fieros are cheap because they are a pain to maintain. If I was to get a Fiero, it would be an 88 only. Look for 88's because they are a whole new car suspension wise, the older ones used Chevette components ! Get a Formula or better yet a GT. These have value because they were fast and now are collectable.

Here is a prime example:

http://members.tripod.com/LrdByr/fierosale/


Good luck

Don

 

Demon, you're car doesn't even run ......

 

Matlock, you should be able to get a really nice car for about $4500 to $5000. If I were you I'd go for a Formula 350. They're generally undervalued and the best performers.

 

Nice looking Camaro. Too bad it got wrecked. I vote you get another Camaro. More specifically, an 87 IROC vert.

 

Does ICBC charge much more a year for insurance on an iroc or trans am compared to a 2.8L? I know in the states it varies quite a bit. $10 more a month wouldnt worry me.

 

I know its not a thirdgen but.....



80 PONTIAC Trans Am Custom, Chevy 454 ci big block, auto, freshly blt 400 turbo with shift kit, lowered, 3" exh, thousands invested, take advantage of someone's financial mistake $7500. You must see this car in person!! Visit us on the Internet at www.corvette-specialties.com. Corvette Specialties Surrey Tel: 604-580-8388

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1991 Firebird Formula
305 TPI,Auto,Custom 3" Mandrel bent I-pipe, Flowmaster 80 series muffler, 3" hi-flo cat, Accel Cap & Rotor,Taylor Spiro Wires,Bosch Platinum Plugs, K&N Filter, Grant GT Steering Wheel, 5% Rear tint, Pontiac Windshield Decal, Fresh paint

Former owner of an 88 2.8 Firebird....RIP

 

You'd never get anyone to buy it off you again for $7500. You'd have to really want it to pay that much.

 

Have any of you guys seen the T/A in front of Ralph's Auto on Scott Road thats light blue with grey ground effects with the for sale sign? I asked about it and they guy wants $3500 for it. He wasnt there though, so I couldnt hear it run. Has t-tops, 5spd, not sure which motor. Paint is peeling in a few places and a little rust here and there.

 

Just remember $7500 CANADIAN = around $4900 US

 

Wait a minute... you guys are all talking Canadian $$$, huh?

 

hehe... We both posted at the same time.

 

Matlock that car looks in bad shape.Rims suck not even real GTA rims.Under carriage looks mighty nasty and yes the paint sucks,needs new tires too.

On a different note am i being boycotted ,i mean im asking some valid questions in my posts but no one seems to even try to respond.I feel left out.Maybe me and my GTA should go some place else.

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1987 Trans AM GTA
305 5SPD
Hypertech airfoil
gutted maf
kn filter
High Flow Cat,
3"Walker pipe
Dynomax Super turbo Muffler
TB Coolant bypass

 

Stormshadow: Yeah its not in the best shape.. If I got it for $3000 you think it'd be a good deal? My end goal for a car is too have it near mint, and I'm not going to heavily modify it. Should I buy one that is already like that and pay top dollar?

And about no one answering your questions.. they'll come around. What is it that you wanna know?

 

Hey matlock, if you do end up trying to find a V6 for insurance reasons or what ever I still have my 89. Its a 2.8 5-speed, extremely good shape and well maintained. E-mail me if you want more info.

And Stormshadow, just calm down I highly doubt anyone is boycotting you. Its just some threads get tons of responces while others just don't get anything - the way it goes.

Jess

 

Hey matlock, good luck on your search. I was like you last summer, looking for a bird or camaro (v8) but found my lil' 6 and decided to go for.... Oh well a swap will be nice on day

hey Crusader would you mind E-mailing me some Info on your car, I might now some who maybe in interested if Matlock goes for the V8 thanks
shawn.a.anderson@home.com

 

You don't have to pay top dollar for a good car.I paid 4800$ for mine and it is mint the body is good paint is good and the car looks sweet.only reason why it was cheap was because it had 218000 km on it,but it was babied and i got a huge duotang full of receipts from the guy showing all the maintenance he had done on it.They are out there just look

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1987 Trans AM GTA
305 5SPD
Hypertech airfoil
gutted maf
kn filter
High Flow Cat,
3"Walker pipe
Dynomax Super turbo Muffler
TB Coolant bypass

 

I looked at an 86 Trans Am today. Red, T-Tops, fully loaded, lots of recent work done. But the problem is its a rebuild. Tt was hit on the front driverside fender. It looks repaired pretty good except the nose isnt lined up perfectly with the hood. Theres also a couple other things that need to be fixed like pdl's not locking drivers side door, some paint peels and chips. It's a tpi 305 auto with recent transmission work done, and 188,000kms. They're asking $5000 obo. How does that sound to you guys?

 

Matlock,$5000.00 is way too much for that car by the sounds of the condition.
For $5000.00 for a 15 year old Trans Am you should get something with a 350 and very good body.
I bought my 85 Trans Am for $2500 and it's in good shape but I still had to replace a few things and still have a few things to go.
I'd wait,Imo.

 

You think I should keep looking? I looked at an 87 IROC on sunday with a 305 tpi, auto, 232,000kms, fully loaded, interior was beat up, a chunk on bondo on the door was cracked, the thing needed lot of paint chips and scratches repaired, a/c wasnt connected, and one of the brakes squeeled while driving. They wanted $5000 for it and I offered 3, and they wouldnt budge. And I thought baliff places were negotiable.

 

those two cars are nowhere new worth 5000 grand.keep looking ,i found a beauty for cheap you can too

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1987 Trans AM GTA
305 5SPD
Hypertech airfoil
gutted maf
kn filter
High Flow Cat,
3"Walker pipe
Dynomax Super turbo Muffler
TB Coolant bypass

 

Okay thanks guys I'll keep looking. Btw what if I were able to talk the guy who owns the 86 TA down to say $4000 ?

It looks just like this:

 

are you sure it's a 86 those rims didn't come on the TA till later

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1987 Trans AM GTA
305 5SPD
Hypertech airfoil
gutted maf
kn filter
High Flow Cat,
3"Walker pipe
Dynomax Super turbo Muffler
TB Coolant bypass

 

I saw a black GTA at United Park and Sell in New West on Royal Ave... not sure if it's still there. I drove by it but I didn't get a very good look.

 

I went to see that 89 black gta in new west yesterday. Paint is pretty bad on it. But it has every option, and black leather. Also the L98 is making a ticking noise which seems to lose a lot of horsepower. I drove it around the block and went going about 10k/hr I floored it and it only downshift and lept forward and didnt spin. I think a supposed 345ft.lbs/tq would spin easier. So I passed on his $4500 firm price.

 

There is little difference charged by ICBC for an IROC/GTA versus a V6. ICBC goes by "pay out" more than anything else. I get the max discount (and live in Kamloops which has cheaper rates), but my insurance is around C$800/year with my 45% discount. Its been basically that same amount for years.

As for an F-body, the first question you have to ask yourself is "will you want to mod it"? If you are happy with a "stocker", then get an L98 IROC/Z28/GTA/Trans-Am/Formula. But since they are kind of rare (good luck finding a 1992 GTA L98, less than 24 ever brought into Canada), you REALLY don't want to mod them...it ruins their value. This is the dilema I find myself in right now, I want to modify my car, but it is not that common and starting to appreciate in value.

So, to get my "speed thrills", I am now looking for a "burnt out 305" with a 5-speed. Then just yank the motor and put in something stronger...like a 406. If it is pre-86, you can just go carb...but if you like EFI, install the 7730 SD system in it.

But, my point is, determine what you want first. If its a "hot rod", then just look for a good "shell" and replace all the power train with GOOD PARTS and do the suspension. Its easy to negotiate when the engine is burning oil and the tranny is not working like it use to. What do you care, you will change all those anyways. It is a heck of a lot cheaper than finding a good L98 and then having to mod that.

Conversely, nothing wrong with a good L98. It is just a shame (and expensive) to start modding them as they are becoming rarer and rarer.

 

Today the guy with the 89 GTA called me back and said he'll accept my offer of $4000. I guess the other guy who was going to look at the car didnt want it for $4500 either. It seriously needs clearcoat and the motor ticking doesnt sound too bad but something is wrong. Should I buy this?? Plus if anyone wants to goto new west to help me I'm all for it

[This message has been edited by matlock (edited June 30, 2001).]

 

my motor does the same thing i think it is a drivers side exhaust manifold leak beacause i know it leaks and the ticking goes away when it gets warmed up real good.

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1987 Trans AM GTA
305 5SPD
Hypertech airfoil
gutted maf
kn filter
High Flow Cat,
3"Walker pipe
Dynomax Super turbo Muffler
TB Coolant bypass

 

I got the GTA fully inspected and the ticking turned out to be a spark plug wire wasnt on properly. LOL. The mechanic who checked it out gunned it taking it around the lot and said "it chirps 2nd now like it should". All the car needs is some clearcoat. So I bought the car and am giving him the rest of the money on Saturday. Sweet

 

Awesome!!!

 

matlock if you need any help give me a Holler on here.

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1987 Trans AM GTA
305 5SPD
Hypertech airfoil
gutted maf
kn filter
High Flow Cat,
3"Walker pipe
Dynomax Super turbo Muffler
TB Coolant bypass

[This message has been edited by Stormshadow GTA (edited July 03, 2001).]

 

Sweet another GTA to run a muck around B.C hahahahahahahahah

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1987 Trans AM GTA
305 5SPD
Hypertech airfoil
gutted maf
kn filter
High Flow Cat,
3"Walker pipe
Dynomax Super turbo Muffler
TB Coolant bypass

 

Thanks I'm really happy about this car. Just regular maitenance needs to be done, no major problems. Checked out the history and no accidents. Its the L98 too. I got to look under the car too and its very clean. I didnt even know this year had dual cats! Black leather interior, t-tops, and power everything. What a sweet deal. Cant ask for anymore for $4000.

 

Cool. Now get the ARAP BIN burned for it and you'll have a good running "stocker". Don't waste your money on any other eproms.

 

mat,


Sounds like a good score
Post some pics damnit, I want to see this beotch

Bring it !

Don

 

BTW, good thing you had that "ticking" sound checked out. The previous owner probably never knew what it was, and was more willing to take less money for the car, thinking it was more serious than it really was. (If he had known, he wouldn't have left the spark plug wire loose).

As I said in an earlier post, I had a funny "tick" which turned out to be one of my plugs were loose. The "tick" was the escaping gases from the cylinder.

 

I'll post some pics as soon as I get it!

Gonna hopefully hop over to the bank today during work to grab the rest of the money.

Glen: Whats that thing about the prom? You program your own I thought.

 

Matlock, I DO program my own eproms. My car is an Speed Density system.

But for MAF cars, we are finding the ARAP BIN is an excellent place to start (provided they are either a 1989 or if they are a pre-1989, disable the cold start injector). I have installed it on a couple of cars, and "out of the box" it is very close...much closer than any aftermarket eprom I have ever seen.

I just like to make sure any MAF owners are aware of this BIN as it is the BEST place to start if you have a MAF car, and for most owners, they don't even need to modify it (other than the control of the fans, which are not set to "Normal Operation" for some reason).

MAF cars are not "displacement dependent" like SD systems that calculate the actual air flow. So you don't have to worry whether it is a 305 or a 350. Just make sure you have the right number for the Injector Size, change the Fan Switch to "Normal Operation" and select the transmission that you have...and off you go.

The only problem you will run into is if you are running a BIG MOTOR (like a 383 or bigger). They gobble so much air that they end up maxing out the MAF sensor to 255 and then you have to "cludge" the code. At that point, Speed Density becomes a viable alternative as Speed Density can support any size of engine (up to some large displacement that exceeds an bored/stroked SBC). You just have to make sure the SD eprom has the "Cylinder Displacement" constant set properly. Right now, a guy with a 350 stroked to 396 is running a version of BIN with good results. Just have to "tweak" the VE tables.

 

How about this one? It's in BC and it's on the market.

Check out my web site and email me for complete details.

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British Columbia Enthusiast
1989 Formula 305 TBI

 

This thread being brought back to the top reminded me about that eprom Glenn. Now that I got my car and its running decent, what exactly do I need in order to use that eprom if it works so well? You said to get the ARAP BIN, although I'm sure its not overly difficult, what is it that I need to do? And do I need an eprom "burner" to modify it?

If I can save a lot of money in gas I will definately put in the time into learning the intricacies. (Its funny that I'm too not intricate since I spelled that word wrong ) Also its related to my field.. in September I will be going to BCIT for computer systems technology. Any money saved on gas goes a long way! Plus knocking of a few tenths wouldnt hurt

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89 GTA - L98, Black on Black Leather, T-Tops

RIP: 87 Camaro Sport Coupe

 

I can help out with the ARAP bin. I have learned from the best - Glenn.

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Karl Hunter
Hunter Motorsports
Vancouver, B.C. CANADA

 

Hmmm, I guess I need to start reading the prom board. I keep getting a code 51 on my new '88 IROC (L03). Tried both of the ADS chips the previous owner supplied, so it looks like I'm in the market for a new prom chip...

15, 23, 45, 51 we are having fun now