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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 03:20 AM
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Good Place for Headliner Fabric?

I took out my headliner board recently, but I can't find any place locally that sells the right type of fabric. I'm sure there are a bunch of places, but everywhere I go or call doesn't have what I need.

Have any of you fixed your headliner?

I'm still looking for someplace that carries '3M Headliner Adhesive' and 'Headliner Fabric' but no luck so far.

Tried- City Mill, Home Depot, Kaimuki Dry Goods, some other 'dry goods' and I called a few places. Nothin'.

I need to try more upholstery shops I guess.

So far I just have the board sitting in my garage (it WAS cleaned off) and it's mostly repaired with fiberglass cloth. Need to brush off the leaves and crap, finish a couple small spots, then I'm ready to get some cloth on there.

Damn, I never finished my projects....

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Scott
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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 07:55 AM
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i think Napa sells 3m products so you could try them. It's a long shot though. Try calling upholstery shops & see if they could help you out on locating the headliner material. Happy hunting!
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 03:38 AM
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Kind of pricey, but saw that Hawks was carrying a complete kit right now for sale:

http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/in...l?v=1&pid=2557

Camaro/Firebird NEW 82-92 Headliner KIT incl Headliner, Sail Panels, and Sun Visors for $239. More than I'd like to pay but comes with the sail panels and visors in matching color, so might be a good buy if you're looking to replace all that stuff.
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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Oooh, sounds cool, visors and whatnot...
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 04:00 AM
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Anyone try 'Fabric Mart?' I saw one in kaneohe last night but it was closed. (I wonder why, at 3:30 in the morning....)

If the last two places on my list don't have it, I'll drive back over to kaneohe to check them out.

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Scott
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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Hi F-body enthusiasts,

About a year or two ago I had a guy named Chuck replace the headline and sails on my '92 Z28 for less than $100. It looks great, and after having the car in Arizona heat, the headliner still sticks like new. I hope he's still in business... 641-8402

Here's an article I wrote for the Hawaii Camaro Club newsletter:

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It's inevitable -- as the years add up gravity takes its' toll and some very important things start to sag -- Like the headliner on your 3rd Gen Camaro. Years of heat, ozone, pollutants and maybe even cosmic rays combine to disintegrate the rubber binder holding the cloth to the fiberglass shell and the cloth separates, eventually resembling a hanging garden.

This is exactly what happened with my '92 Z-28, as the now matronly dame lost all support of her overhead assets, unceremoniously lowering them on the driver and passengers. Seeking a quick fix, I grabbed a can of contact spray glue and blasted away. As I later discovered, this was a huge mistake and didn't do squat for fixing the problem.

Having earlier gone through two days of hell to remove and reinstall the very delicate fiberglass headliner shell in my '87 IROC-Z to install a roof console, I almost puked at the thought of going though the hassle again. The fiberglass shell is like mulch layers, very fragile, soft, easily damaged, and the stupid little metal retaining clips always seem to get dislodged. And the plastic interior trim pieces are insanely difficult to remove and install. Nooooo, I wasn't looking forward to this one....

It took me about two seconds to give up the option of doing it myself, so I sought an expert opinion from John Pinero at Performance Auto Care Center. He said Chuck's Mobil Upholstery did great headliner work for him recently, so I called Chuck at 641-8402 and he returned an estimate of $85 [less than the cost of tranquilizers and beer consumed to recover from doing it myself on the '87]. A couple days later Chuck shows up at my house to do the work. Turns out he's got a 3rd Gen Camaro in the family and was very familiar with the idiosyncrasies of these cars, including the idiotic plastic moldings. Making the difficult job look easy, he removed the headliner shell and installed a nice, thick headliner within two hours, including the stereo speaker panels and the Z-28 was looking spiffy again.

I learned a lot watching a pro do the job. Main thing is all foam-backed headliners eventually separate from the shell when the foam layer eventually disintegrates from heat, ozone or cosmic rays. Don't try for a quick fix by spraying contact cement into the void -- it won't work for more than a couple days, as I quickly discovered on H-1 when the headliner cloth fell like an animal trap over my head. Chuck recommends taping or using straight pins to hold the cloth in place until proper repairs can be made. Most of Chuck's labor was spent cleaning the contact cement residue from the very delicate shell. He then rolled out the new material, sprayed new adhesive, pressed the foam-cloth into place and reinstalled the shell and panels.

Like magic, the headliner now looks and feels better than new ... and I saved a bundle on tranquilizers!
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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Thanks for the recommendation! A friend of mine told me to give him a call also. Chuck did his '88 foxbody and it turned out really well.

Since I haven't made any progress on this in months, I think I'll just give up and call him. Maybe I'll give it one more shot... then call.

Laters,
Scott
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 02:11 AM
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Hey thanks for the great info Duck!! You are bringing back painful memories of all my headliner experiences & stupid broken plastic clips & even the clip retainers on the a-pillar panels!!!! Hopefully that guy is still in business if I ever have to get my headliner redone.
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