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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 08:02 PM
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How much PSI for O-ringing block

just wondering how much PSI u can boost till they recomend o-ringing your block and heads? thanks

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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 10:42 PM
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for a non intercooled app weiand says no more than an effective compression ratio of 12.5:1

on most 9:1 compression 350's this is about 6 PSI of boost.


But technically, you shouldnt need to O-ring so long as cylinder BMEP's are kept below 300 PSI (such as very high boost / N20 at a very low RPM) and as long as detonation is kept under control you can run as much boost as you want without an O-ring.

its the super high cylinder pressure, and detonation that blow headgaskets.

if you Oring your motor, then its basically proof against #1 the super high cylinder pressures, but NOT detonation. if your block is Oringed then instead of blowing a headgasket you will put a hole somwhere in your bottom end. not good.
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 12:34 AM
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head gaskets are a good safety seal, I will be using felpro loc-wire head gaskets as my "fuse"
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 07:16 AM
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thanks for the info guys. I WON'T be o-ringing my block then :-D don't wanan loose the bottom end, head gaskets are easy :-D
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 10:28 AM
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My block/heads aren't o-ringed and I haven't had any problems with 20+psi of boost. As was already said, just avoid detonation and the resulting spikes in cylinder rpessure and you should be fine.
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 03:20 PM
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I think this is what people are referring to-lean A/F & boost don't go together. Here is lean@ 18+ lbs. of boost

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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 04:03 PM
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holy mangled gaskets batman. Are those JE/SRP pistons? did they fare well?
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 05:42 PM
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Yes, those are JE blower/turbo pistons. They held up all three times!!!!!!!!!
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 05:54 PM
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in that picture is your block cracked at the stud? what kinda gaskets were u using?
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 06:06 PM
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I am also using JE blower pistons, 9.5:1 in a 6" rod 383 motor. Its not built yet, but that picture gives me comforte.
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by 87transam5.7tpi
in that picture is your block cracked at the stud? what kinda gaskets were u using?
The block isn't cracked-that is old gasket. I was using a standard FelPro race gasket. Now the heads are cut and WireLoc's installed.
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they look just like mine thank *** they survive :-)
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