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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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FMIC Question.

How well would this FMIC be?

Dimensions Details:

Core Length : 24" (600mm)
Core Height: 12" (300mm)
Core Thickness: 3" (76mm)
Inlet Size: 3" o/d (76mm)
Outlet Size: 3" o/d (76mm)
"End to End" Length: 32" (800mm)

I was looking for a 23 x13x 3 1/2

Would this be close enough? Its a bar and plate style.

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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 10:13 AM
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2more. I dont feel like uploading em to my server right now.

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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 10:15 AM
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last one...... Its a Compnay on ebay who I seen had a few on auction and I aske dthem if they had any for a BUY IT NOW price and this was the e-mail i got

Dear tpi383,

Thanks for your interest in our products, we are wholesaler of high quality bar and plate intercoolers, and now we are doing whole sale to public at the moment and the buy it now price is $250 and $269 including shipping insurance.

I was bidding one lastnight from a Diff Co. Same FMIC and it ended at $305

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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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It looks pretty damn good from the pics, and the price would be hard to beat, but the cross sectional area of that intercooler isn't even 80% of the one you desire. This could make for some large pressure losses depending on how much cfm you want this thing to cool. What type of hp are you shooting for?

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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 01:44 PM
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there is a mass of intercoolers on ebay right now in that size and price range, it is incredible.

someday we will look back and say, I remember when it cost a fortune to turbo charge our cars.

read this thread the owner tells his dimensions and used and interesting method to install. his outlets are differently placed as well.

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=244000
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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Tom,

Ya Im the one who is hosting his Pictures for him.

and the original FMIC i was looking for a core for was this one.

like TTA850

Im sure your rem this photoshop
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...highlight=FMIC



He said his was

The dimensions of my intercooler are 13" high, 23 5/8" wide, and 3 1/2" thick. I couldnt really get specs on the tanks but if you find out the distance between the bumper supports then subtract the width of the core(23 5/8")and another 1/2" for clearance(1/4" on each side)you'll get the amount of room you have left to play with. Split that figure in two and you'll know exactly how big the tanks can be, probrobly a little over 3".

HTH,
Steve
and them ebay ones are as close as I can find

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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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This is the pressure drop they clame....

600x300x75mm Intercooler High Quality 75mm or 3 " Inlet and Outlet extremly high flow Worldwide Shipping Available


Key features:
High flow
High power handle supported upto 800hp
Big inlet 76mm or 3"
High efficiency big core with internal fins!!
Low pressure drop 0.2psi at 15psi



as for my HP goal.. what ever I get I get.. This is gona be a 396 Lt1 stroker with a Holset HX55
http://www.cecoatings.com/images/Car...lsetHX55Turbo/
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 07:31 PM
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as for my HP goal.. what ever I get I get.. This is gona be a 396 Lt1 stroker with a Holset HX55
I think this IC would do a great job of cooling the hx55's charge, but IMHO neither are going to keep up with a 396 LT1. I am going to assume (***=me) 6500 rpm (LT1, right?) and 15 psi (w/a good tune and IC). That could put you near 1,000hp by my count, which is way past efficent for both the turbo and the intercooler (unless you're expecting twins!). Is there any reason for that engine choice? I feel a much more economical 355 L98 derivative would be a better idea for a single hx55. Not that I have used one of these before or anything, I'm just going from the numbers and this chart you have:


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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by TPl383
Tom,

Ya Im the one who is hosting his Pictures for him.

and the original FMIC i was looking for a core for was this one.

like TTA850

Im sure your rem this photoshop
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...highlight=FMIC



He said his was



and them ebay ones are as close as I can find
did that one in the pictures ever get the inlets changed to the way it is photoshopped in that picture?

anyone that is interested I will be taking pictures of and measurements of the core support area in my camaro for informational purposes.
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by Dustin Mustangs
I think this IC would do a great job of cooling the hx55's charge, but IMHO neither are going to keep up with a 396 LT1. I am going to assume (***=me) 6500 rpm (LT1, right?) and 15 psi (w/a good tune and IC). That could put you near 1,000hp by my count, which is way past efficent for both the turbo and the intercooler (unless you're expecting twins!). Is there any reason for that engine choice? I feel a much more economical 355 L98 derivative would be a better idea for a single hx55. Not that I have used one of these before or anything, I'm just going from the numbers and this chart you have:


It was gona go on a 418 down the road. I have a 94Lt one laying around thats I planto stroked for the convertable. Twin HX55's you gota be kidding. thats over 2k HP.

Your 1000hp mark seems right. Thats what Ive been told also out of a HX55 on a motor that will take the boost.
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by B4Ctom1
did that one in the pictures ever get the inlets changed to the way it is photoshopped in that picture?

anyone that is interested I will be taking pictures of and measurements of the core support area in my camaro for informational purposes.
Tom,

No TTA850 had no intensions of redoing it. I planed to run one like that with side in/out instead of bottom because the car is lowered.

I can take pic's of the core area if needed since the front clip is off now anyways.. maybe I'll roll it out and get some pic's this weekend.
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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I have been thinking along the twin HX-35 route
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 09:20 PM
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Tom, you might want to check out http://www.turbomustangs.com/forums/...?s=&forumid=20

That has been brought up with in the last few days. Twin HX35's would take alot to spool also. Somoene said That would e a good setup for a 500BigBlock motor.

Lots of Holset info if you do a search over on the forums there.

A single HX40 will support 800Hp from my readings.
This HX55 is more then I will ever need. but the price was right and i didnt think I would like how low the twin 60/63's would have spooled on either motor I build. would have made it non street trie friendly.
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 02:51 AM
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haha yeah one of the twin HX-35 posts there is mine

http://www.turbomustangs.com/forums/...highlight=hx35

Im thinking of swapping the exhaust housings to these for small block use:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...926189572&rd=1
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 06:31 AM
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Ya I seen that post. Verry nice car...
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 07:27 AM
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Twin HX55's you gota be kidding. thats over 2k HP. Your 1000hp mark seems right. Thats what Ive been told also out of a HX55 on a motor that will take the boost.
I got the thousand horsepower figure buy running the numbers on your engine, not from anything I've heard or found about the turbo. That's why I was a little concerned with the combo, your chart I posted seems to show the hx55's efficency range from 400 to 600 hp. I'm not used to this type of chart for a turbo, am I reading it wrong or something?
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Nobody seems to be able to find Holset Compressor maps. Im assuming (heres the *** part again) that that Holset chart is what they put on on desil setups. Since thats what they were designed for. I could be WAYYYY off here and pprob am.

I's really like to find a compressor map. and see formyself where its sweet spot is.

Ive had a few people say It will start spool around 2500+ on a 350. and it will start spooling around 2300-2800 on the 418,and be fully spooled by about 3500 in second at the latest)


So I dono. On a 396 It should do decent. prob a little lag in the low end. but the trq from a stroker might make up for that.
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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well, vortech, paxton, and procharger dont give thier compressor maps either. sadly when using turbos like this building a junk yard setup, a certain amount of common sense and faith has to be applied. Comparisons to similar sized turbos, and attention to A/R's.

There is/was a guy on ebay that had some turbo selection and sizing software that contained compressor maps for essentialy every turbo one might find with exception of the GM-IHI-Warner diesel turbos.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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I've been looking at these intercooler's for some time now. check this place out, they will do mods as well. Oh yeah and a buy it now cheaper than the auction you were looking at. Seems like the same cooler gets sold all the way down to about $260 or so. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742

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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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I picked on up from here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...e=STRK:MEWN:IT

$250 shipped. same IC buy form Hong Kong.

what sucks is paypal is screwed up right now and I cant payfor it since thats all they take.

at least with the one you posted I could have called.
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I believe it's a Mishimoto product, not %100 sure but it seems to be. I'm trying to get the US place I listed above to weld some 90º inlet/outlet pipes at the plrice so it's closer to a drop in fit. If I were you I would get the $20 in shipping insurance.

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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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Congrats on that purchase, you have six days to pay before you get bad engrish feedback. I did not think the Austrailian/Hong Kong contingent was still selling on US ebaY, but I see them now with just two items at a time. The overseas guys started bringing these coolers over first. Funny how it's listed as a "New Custom Made." Yeah custom, funny they all look the same and you can buy them by the truckload. Not what I imagine as custom but a sweet product. No truth in advertising.
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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Ya well see when it gets here how it is. i see he has only 4 bad feed back. SOme bent fins on the ic's.

id like to find a stock pile of cores and weld up a bunch here and resell them.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 06:39 AM
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according to UPS it should be here 2morrow.

Funny thing They clame to be out of Hong Kong. yet this shipped out of georgia.

Date/
Time Location Activity

Oct 14, 2004
2:42 A.M. DORAVILLE, GA, US DEPARTURE SCAN

Oct 13, 2004
9:13 P.M. DORAVILLE, GA, US ARRIVAL SCAN
7:55 P.M. CARROLLTON, GA, US DEPARTURE SCAN
5:22 P.M. CARROLLTON, GA, US ORIGIN SCAN
3:55 P.M. CARROLLTON, GA, US PICKUP SCAN

12:32 P.M. US BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED .
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TPl383 you get your FMIC trial fitted or installed yet? Inquiring minds wanna know. :shrug:
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TPl383 you get your FMIC trial fitted or installed yet? Inquiring minds wanna know. :shrug:
nope sorry I havent. been working on a diff section of the car. Maybe this weekend.
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