Power Adders Getting a Supercharger or Turbocharger? Thinking about using Nitrous? All forced induction and N2O topics discussed here.

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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 09:04 PM
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is this true?

i heard if you had a blower or a turbo... u could use a small shot of NOS(50-75 shot) and it would act as an intercooler. would this work or is this BS?
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 09:21 PM
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yes it is true.

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12.33 @ 114.83 juiced uncorrected

13.510 @ 102 non juiced uncorrected
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 09:58 PM
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the NOS works great on my car as an intercooler
but you still need to add more gas.

check it out at:
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Old Nov 3, 2001 | 03:54 AM
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Yes a moderate shot of Nitrous/Fuel would absorb any extra heat in the air/fuel charge,
created by the blower. Like an intercooler or water injection. Especialy a Nitrous/methanol injection system. Also it would eliminate any turbo boost lag. Just remember the fuel part would have to be referenced to the boost pressure if the system is post turbo. Done right it could allow more boost to be run on street gas and provide more power with less detonation.

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Old Nov 3, 2001 | 09:06 AM
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It also greatly increases the oxygen content in the mixture and under boost you better make sure you have a good fuel system and injectors than can either handle really high duty cycles or flow lots at normal pressure. If not, you will go lean and burn holes in pistons, etc.

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Old Nov 13, 2001 | 05:13 PM
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it's kind like water/alcohol injection, nitrous can be consider as kind of force induction, since it force more oxygen into the engine.

on an interesting note that John Linegefelter use nitrous to cool off the intercooler(due to extrme high boost level) while he attemp a land speed record(it's a thirdgen bird ).

anyway, i conside water/alcohol injection, ice cool intercooler, nitrous intercool as one shot/band aid fix. in a well design turbo system u shouldn't need it, unless u are at the strip.

dw
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Old Nov 13, 2001 | 08:40 PM
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Well, I could just copy the posts of everyone else but then I would not be original.

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1991 Firebird
350 L98 (was a 305 TBI),T-5,Edelbrock TES and cat back,Accel manifold
NOS,subframes,jegster torque arm,MSD Digital 6
AFPR,Lakewood lcas
Hurst linelock,SLP cam (206 212 .480 .486),relocated battery,cold air,Hypertech chip,centerforce df,clutch
poly bushings and mounts
AFR 190s
Harland sharp 1.5 rockers
autopower rollbar

12.33 @ 114.83 juiced uncorrected

13.510 @ 102 non juiced uncorrected
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Old Nov 14, 2001 | 05:54 PM
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Like everyone else I have to say yes.


It may be worth pointing out that a wet system cools the intake charge better than a dry system.


PS:

It never ceases to amuse me what people call "band aids"
Does a band aid = using a power adder??? Shouldn't a properly designed engine make enough power without it? Do I need slicks or will a properly set up chassis mean I don't need those band aids?
"Band aids? These aint no stinkin' band aids."
I would like to see the band aid that gets you a full second or more in the quarter. I'll take a box of those. Can I get them with pictures of the Flintstones on them?

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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 07:36 PM
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Thought I would add HEHE!!

For supercharged or turbo
applications where nitrous
is not an option, NX offers
another alternative. Tne
"N-tercooler". Using either
nitrous or CO2, this unit can
reduce air inlet temperatures
dramatically. In a recent dyno
test a turbocharged Honda
equipped with an NX
"N-tercooler", increased its
baseline by an astonishing 52
HP! If it makes horsepower
it must be Nitrous Express!
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Old Nov 16, 2001 | 01:08 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IROCKZ4me:

PS:

It never ceases to amuse me what people call "band aids"
Does a band aid = using a power adder??? Shouldn't a properly designed engine make enough power without it? Do I need slicks or will a properly set up chassis mean I don't need those band aids?
"Band aids? These aint no stinkin' band aids."
I would like to see the band aid that gets you a full second or more in the quarter. I'll take a box of those. Can I get them with pictures of the Flintstones on them?
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???

what u trying to say? i don't consider power adder as band aid. I stated that if you are race your car @ strip or going for a land record. then using nitrous injection as way to cool the intake charge is very well justifify. but in a daily driver just using nitrous/water/alcohol injectiion to keep a force induction engine from dentation is unacceptable. that is what i mean by a band aid fix. i am big fan of power adder, it allow the engine to be more efficient, hence make more power which is what we are all after.

regard

dw
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