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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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boost+ head gaskets

heh i managed to blow out a or both head gaskets after just over 2k miles.falure ocured on my 4th 19psi run.if i switch to copper gaskets do i need to get the heads/block o-ringed. or would i be fine just droping a set on the motor as it is.or should i just get a good replacement stock head gasket set and see what happens again.

though im still not sure if i hurt anything else yet.i wont know till i get the motor apart.but im pretty sure its just a head gasket since its blowing antifreeze out the ex
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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Personally I'd get a set of felpro stock replacment gaskets with arp head bolts and try again paying closer attention to your tune. With a good tune most headgaskets will live, last season I put 220 passes on my car running between 19-26psi of boost without a failure. Took the heads off over the winter to replace worn guides and the gaskets looked like new.

If you want a stronger gasket than that try an multi layer steel gasket(like cometic).

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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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there is nothing wrong with the tune.and its hard to find good headgaskets,not many companys make stuff for the 60* v6 engines
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TTA850
If you want a stronger gasket than that try an multi layer steel gasket(like cometic).

HTH,
Steve
Ive heard bad things about MLS gaskets. I picked up these for my engine.

Fel-Pro Performance Head Gaskets: FPP-17030 - summitracing.com

That was suggested by Summit's Tech Support.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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I hope I didnt offend you but I've seen alot of good tunes burn headgaskets, pistons, ect.

Felpro 512SD Perma Torque Severe Duty are similar to what I use(only mine dont carry the severe duty tag)and with arp bolts should be just fine.
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Ive heard bad things about MLS gaskets.
I've never personally used MLS gaskets but have heard they work from other people, I personally think the perma torque type gaskets will live in most applications. Though the factory has been using MLS gaskets lately with good results.

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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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i'd look into cometics. i know guys with em on every type of forced induction possible and they hold up great. a little expensive but definately worth it.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 09:22 AM
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i'd look into cometics. i know guys with em on every type of forced induction possible and they hold up great. a little expensive but definately worth it.
I ran them with no problems on about 14-15 psi.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 12:04 AM
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The headgaskets are a fuse . I would rather blow a headgasket that burn piston and mess up the internals. RJC and cometic make really good headgaskets ....... the problem is im sure you will need a rebuild after you blow their gaskets
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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I'm having trouble finding a site that sell cometics gaskets. Anyone have a link?
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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here is a link to the cometic site Cometic Gasket, Inc..

Its all about the tune. Ive ran my grand national @ 27psi everytime i drive the car for the last 3yrs no problems on stock headgaskets.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TTA#299
here is a link to the cometic site Cometic Gasket, Inc..

Its all about the tune. Ive ran my grand national @ 27psi everytime i drive the car for the last 3yrs no problems on stock headgaskets.
Much grass, sir.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by daves12secV6
if i switch to copper gaskets do i need to get the heads/block o-ringed. or would i be fine just droping a set on the motor as it is.
You need o-rings for copper headgaskets. Either the block or heads. I have my block 0-ringed, and i havent had one problem with my car. 3 yrs of running. And i've had a few misshaps where my wastegate vacuum hose blew off and the engine saw upwards of 30lbs of boost before i noticed. Your running a 3.1? Your problem may never be able to get fixxed. It might be the design of the heads or head bolt pattern. I dont think the 3.1 is really designed to handle tons of cylinder pressure.

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