Hey all,

I am looking for a picture of a motor in a 3rd gen that is modified to max. Twin turbos, blowers, lots of chrome... I am planning on making something to the effect of:

Picture
3rd gen f-body
Laughing stock at the drag strip...
The ultimate sleeper


... If that even made any sense...

Anyways... If anyone wants to share, post up some pics so I can get a good one!!

Thanks in advance!!!

-Tim-

 

didnt realize 3rd gen Fbodys were the laughing stock...

 

I think he means, a real sleeper, as in the exterior looks like something that should be in the junk yard, but pop the hood, and you are thinking PRO STOCKER!

 

Have you looked here? https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/powe...pics-your.html

 

What I mean is that people don't think to highly of our cars... they dont really think of them as a threat. I know everyone that I talk to (mustang people, import people, mopar people, and other non third-gen f-body chevy people) always makes fun of our cars... how slow they are, how little power they make... So they always underestimate what they are capable of

Like my brother, for example, has a wrx... and he makes many many comments on how his little "4 banger" has more hp and can go faster than my "big gas hog v8" and things like that...

Or a friend of mine has a 4.6 mustang gt, and he always says how he could beat me on with out even shifting past 2nd gear...

Does that make any more sense?

 

Good or bad this is true to some aspect. This can be used to your advantage in many crowds as long as you keep the car as quiet as possible. I have a stealth rammed motor with a custom 3 1/2 in air intake, wrapped headers and it looks totally clean and have only had on person outside my friends assume anything was up or show my car any respect.

Being it is your brother it might be hard for you to hide a build up on the side but get a 350 or mod your 305 and suprise him witha nice shot of nitrous lol.

If you want to find a non sleeper thrid gen the hauls jsut look up Rick Head's camaro. Twin Turbo 427 smallblock. That is no sleeper but faster than any wrx based car.

 

I know exactally what these cars are capable of, I am just making a comment on how no one (outside of other third-genners) shows them the respect that they deserve... or any respect for that matter... I always tell my brother that my RS can almost keep up with his wrx in canyon runs handleing wise, and I can outhandle my friends mustang...

but they all laugh at the L03 with it "whopping" 170hp...

And my brother is in Texas now, I am in Cali... so a buildup would be very easy without him knowing...

And my L03 is on its way out the door... soon to be replaced by an LB9

And from there, who knows where I will go (once money allows, that is)
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I think I will have to take a look in there later (most pics dont show up here at work), but thanks for the reply!!

 

I know exactly where your coming from on that subject. I always have people pulling up beside me thinging its an easy kill, turns out they find out otherwise as soon as my tires stop smoking. It took a while around my area to gain the respect but after shutting down some of the highly feared stangs & AWD turbo imports around here i have it now. Havent had to many pick on me now that i have the 4" flowmaster installed {sounds pretty mean}. Good luck with the buildup, oh and remember nitrous can be your best friend when used right hehe.

 

It is part of the curse of the third gen lol. I agree we have to prove too people that our cars deserve respect they don't just assume they are fast. Not sure how many Evo's, wrx's, turbo civic's, srt 4's and so on I had beaten but if i park and pop my hood no one even notices. Actually instead of pulling over to talk most guys are salty and get pissed and take off. You have to make you car flashy and look fast once it is for them to notice.

Get your rear suspension set up nicely with some lower control arms and panhard rod and once you get some power you can do a better job of planting it to the ground.

I liek the fact that he is out of state so you can build it in secret. lol Wait till he comes to visit and show him what you learned.

 

For the power adder pics........see the sticky saying post pics of your power adder.

As for the "car respect", who cares? If your car is slow and you drive it trying to spin the tires all the time, you will get laughed at. WRXs are slow 4-bangers without turbos. Put a turbo on your V8, then compare the two cars.

If you spent the same amount on your old used thirdgen as someone does on a new or used WRX or whatever rig, you would have a much much faster car.

Is this thread about actual power adders or more of a null "street respect" thread that has nothing to do with power adders?

 

i think its starting to lean toward the "street respect" side of things

 

Exactly, thats how these pigs earned their reputation!

These things come out of the factory with pathetic motors in these big boats and you had all these goons trying to rip around in them like they were a 400+HP yenko or something. I imagine it only took about a week or so after thy rolled out of the factory for the whole world to know what a pig they were...


But that being said, thats what makes it more exciting to build one up! Everyone just looks at it and rolls their eyes thinking its just another gutless thirdgen. That is until the light turns green

 

People ask me all the time if my car is a real "z28" or if it's just a rebadged RS. I just shake my head.

 

my friend adam's dad has an 05 audi TT and he's always sayin how my car (86 sc) is slow and ugly it may be slow but its got more potental(sp) than his dad's 4 banger TT

 

you know wat would be fun.... twin turbo 2.8 v6 that would be a sleeper

not an rs or any thing just a base sc

 

Street cred or whatever doesnt really matter too much to me anymore. I just let their alligator mouth get their tweety bird *** in trouble. Especially with the new H/C/I going on in a few weeks.

 

I wanted the sleeper look once, but then I figured my 4" cowl kind of ruins it.

 

My car is a base sc with a real mild 350(idling), and it's half primer. The first time I had it at the track with this motor I was waiting in the staging lanes and someone from behind me says "HEY! that's the 13.99 or faster lane, you gotta get over here so I can get in that lane." I looked over and said "I know what lane I'm in." That run I pulled off a 13.0 at 108, the guy came up and said "Holy ****, I didn't think it had anything because of the stock hood!"

Later I found out there wasn't even a 13.99 or faster lane!


IMO the best sleeper is just a clean looking car with a TT350 with fairly quiet mufflers and a smooth idle.

 

how about a junk car with a tt 350

 

Like so?











Not much of a sleeper though

 

or so
http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/in...?topic=61219.0

 

Walk softly and carry a big stick!

 

I am actually on that path with my car, trying to make a fast sleeper. i dont know exactly what kind of power i making with my setup,but i am told around 700hp at the crank. I want to stay with the stock wheels,maybe have the rear stretched. future mods are 4l85e transmission and 9 inch rear.

engine

car

 

Don't take this the wrong way, but that hot air intake is cutting HP down by about 80+ HP. I would guess it is more around 600 HP unless you are running over 22 PSI of boost with that intercooler. It will detonate pretty bad at that much boost with the hot air even with the IC. If that hot air intake was fixed then I could see that 383 making 700 HP.

I never understand why people throw on a supercharger (hot air creator) and then make the intake point at a header/exhaust manifold/engine. Half the pressurized air gain is lost in intake hot air.

EDIT: Not to pick, but those screw clamps would never hang on for 700 HP worth of boost unless you have something gluing the couplers to the pipes.

 

well i got that from reading chevy high performance where they took a zz 383,which is the same motor i have except i have thicker head gaskets. In the issue they have a zz 383 with that is carb with no intercooler and a smaller super charger and the make 636hp at the crank at 7.5psi and then they change the cam and make 746hp. here is a link http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/_r...344_eprint.pdf

o yeah i am making around 6-7psi

But i am just estimating, so i could be wrong. I also don't see my intake ever getting that hot. here is my sig

 

Dude, your car is the way I am headed for sure. I want to keep it stock looking as possible, yet nasty fast. It should be a fun trip!! I like the idea of the ZZ383, you can check out my sig for what I have already.

 

You, sir, have the coolest 3rd gen ever.

 

I want to do bad things to that car... a lot of humping... drooling..

 

Heres my daily driver. Not modified t the max yet. Pretty close though. 383 SC

 

Here is mine as of a couple days ago. It is a 386, all forged. Used to be a 305TPI. I am happy with it. Installing a 200 shot on top of the 344 RWHP that is makes now. Still need to do some tunning/ possibly swap the cam to make it get up to the 400 RWHP mark. Anyways, it is a N20 motor really, but the funny thing is that...

This is my DD.

 

that what mine will look like in the spring..............cant wait.

 

Any progress pics?

 

sorry to get off the topic
Dennisbernal91z how come your strut mounting pads are spaced with tube type spacers?
I am seeing that a lot. I am going to get the same ones so that i can adjust better the caster camber and for the better bearing bushing it has, but would'nt the pressure placed on those three bushings cause the area to flex and eventually break. I would think putting it on the body flat it has more metal to spread the load on.

Is it done to keep the strut from bottoming on lowered cars?
Please some one Explain.

 

The spacers just keep the bearing at the same height as stock thats all. As for the pressure being evenly distributed, you are right it would be better if there was a bottom plate. But there isn't and if you have solid body panels like I do, I really wouldn't worry about it.

But to be honest. I am only keeping these for a little bit longer and then moving to something a little more flashy. I really like the polished spohn ones. There is nothing wrong with these though. They will be for sale soon if you are interested. PM me.