and so it starts
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BTW, Project... this build thread has to be one of the fastest ones around, makes me feel like my pace is sometimes glacial...
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alls i know is the car better faster then the bike when all is said and done lmao , its pretty dang fast considering it still aint broken in and aint been leaned on yet , its got enough power to lift the front up in 5th with me on it and im 230 pounds
its only seen 127mph so far
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Lol I had my 09' CBR 600 RR on 183 several times ... that's as fast as it would go .... my advice stay away from 100+mph wheelies that's how I totaled mine :-0
91' bird 305 TBI T-5, trick flow heads, 4.10 gears, full UMI setup, track times coming soon!
91' bird 305 TBI T-5, trick flow heads, 4.10 gears, full UMI setup, track times coming soon!
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the rest of my parts came in , only thing that sucks is instead of having friday sat sunday to work on the car , im only going to have about 4-5 hours on friday so we will see what i get done
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well engine is complete and wraped back up in the engine bag , car is also in the shop and i will be taking time off of work to complete it , first order of busniness is to rip out the old hacked up harness i bought and completly rewire the car and the standalone ecm to make it much neater and more professional looking
once i rip out the old harness i will strip the engine bay and paint it with the chassi black paint i picked up the install the engine and finish the rewiring
the goal is to have the car running and ready to go by next weekend

once i rip out the old harness i will strip the engine bay and paint it with the chassi black paint i picked up the install the engine and finish the rewiring
the goal is to have the car running and ready to go by next weekend

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u know i just relized i dont know what plugs i need for this thing , lol i threw away the lil card that came with the heads
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i would suggest 3923 auto lites
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the goal is to have the car running and ready to go by next weekend
One night back in the pits during a GTR/EVO/DSM shootout, a GTR owner walks by a parked Grand National, smirks sarcastically at the owner and says "American Muscle, heh". GN owner chuckles to himself and responds, "you talk big with your AWD backing you up". GTR owner replies; "don't need no AWD, will wax you without it". GN owner says "bring it", GTR owner says "already brung it".... so it be on like Donkey Kong.
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yes the autolite 3923 is a colder plug......its what im running in my car as well. with 16 psi of boost
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well it runs but motor and trans are coming back out , something is squealing something awful and i cant pinpoint if its coming from the engine or trans
engine has rock steady oil presure and revs good , the trans is a fresh built th400
i was thinking about throwing the 700r4 back in it before i pull everything to see if it goes away
engine has rock steady oil presure and revs good , the trans is a fresh built th400
i was thinking about throwing the 700r4 back in it before i pull everything to see if it goes away
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well it runs but motor and trans are coming back out , something is squealing something awful and i cant pinpoint if its coming from the engine or trans
engine has rock steady oil presure and revs good , the trans is a fresh built th400
i was thinking about throwing the 700r4 back in it before i pull everything to see if it goes away
engine has rock steady oil presure and revs good , the trans is a fresh built th400
i was thinking about throwing the 700r4 back in it before i pull everything to see if it goes away
Glad to hear its running though
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its in the transmission got it dropped and fired the motor and no more noise
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When I did the WOT TV mod for the 3-4 shift i just used a needle file for that and it worked great. Dont know if sleeve burrs are the same issue you are having though.
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it only seems to stick if im open the throttle real slow and only go to about half throttle
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wont know till i get it apart , it doesnt always stick , and when it does if i shut the car off and stomp on th gas pedal a few times open shut open shut open shut it will unstick
it only seems to stick if im open the throttle real slow and only go to about half throttle
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i left my camera in the car , i am sick as a dog right now with the flu or somethign so next time i do head back over to work on it some more ill get some pics/vids put up...

Things could be worse bro, could always have either a cracked exhaust housing, or leaky center section seal like me (I'm thinking the latter). Won't know for sure until it cools off, as I was beating the heck out of it up and down Route 9 a little while ago...
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Be a freaking man, take some Sudafed and get back to work... 
Things could be worse bro, could always have either a cracked exhaust housing, or leaky center section seal like me (I'm thinking the latter). Won't know for sure until it cools off, as I was beating the heck out of it up and down Route 9 a little while ago...

Things could be worse bro, could always have either a cracked exhaust housing, or leaky center section seal like me (I'm thinking the latter). Won't know for sure until it cools off, as I was beating the heck out of it up and down Route 9 a little while ago...
on a side note my friend gave me a set of chevy truck long tube headers for free, so instead of buying those up and foward headers form cx racing im going to cut the long tubes up and build my own
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engine is back on the stand , pulled it to paint the engine bay chassi black and to complteley redo the wiring , so far today i got the engine pulled and all the wiring stripped out of the engine bay. mocked up the s10 heater box
tommorow i will paint the bay wire up the heater n and drop the engine back in and start wiring up the ecm
tommorow i will paint the bay wire up the heater n and drop the engine back in and start wiring up the ecm
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started with a apir of these

and ended up with these




have to refit 1-2 pieces to get rid of some gaps but those are the headers im replacing my log headers with

and ended up with these




have to refit 1-2 pieces to get rid of some gaps but those are the headers im replacing my log headers with
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they are borderline at 1/4 inch but if i slice the flanges between the fornt and rear primarys it will be a non issue
i think they will be fine as is as the flanges have sealing rings welded and ground flat on the flange faces , so im going to run them without cutting the flanges first and then if it becomes and issue i will cut them
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well its 530 am on my way out the door to head over and work on the car , hopefully by lunch time i can have everything back in the car and buttoned up, car is supposed to delivered to the body shop by this weekend for paint
this is the color im having the car painted
this pic is in low light conditions

and this is what it will look like in direct light
this is the color im having the car painted
this pic is in low light conditions

and this is what it will look like in direct light
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ok well couple more days and she will be street worthy again
anyways heres whats going on , i need to rework the up and fowards i built just a lil bit


im very pleased with them as i could run dual 4 inch downpipes with tons of clearance , but instead of the twin gt3582's i think im going to pick up something like a single 88 mm turbo to use with the up and fowards
so for the time being i cleaned up the log headers and cut the old wastegate stands off since they hit the new valve covers , i think im just going to make new wastegate stands on 45* angles which will make everything clear again

as u can see in this picture the flange on the turbine housing also hit the valve cover so i took a grinder to it to get it to clear


on the todo list is to figure out were to mount the new afpr and run the new fuel lines
adapt the s10 heater box fan wiring to the stock f-body wiring
swap the power steering box out for a manual box
move the intercooler out fowards after cutting the crash bar
wire up the new megasquirt harness
other then that i have some areo mods im doing on the car ive got a custom rear diffuser on the way along with a front splitter
anyways heres whats going on , i need to rework the up and fowards i built just a lil bit


im very pleased with them as i could run dual 4 inch downpipes with tons of clearance , but instead of the twin gt3582's i think im going to pick up something like a single 88 mm turbo to use with the up and fowards
so for the time being i cleaned up the log headers and cut the old wastegate stands off since they hit the new valve covers , i think im just going to make new wastegate stands on 45* angles which will make everything clear again

as u can see in this picture the flange on the turbine housing also hit the valve cover so i took a grinder to it to get it to clear


on the todo list is to figure out were to mount the new afpr and run the new fuel lines
adapt the s10 heater box fan wiring to the stock f-body wiring
swap the power steering box out for a manual box
move the intercooler out fowards after cutting the crash bar
wire up the new megasquirt harness
other then that i have some areo mods im doing on the car ive got a custom rear diffuser on the way along with a front splitter
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so my new hood arrived today
this is my fist steel amd hood and i love it , look sso much better then the harwood hoods
the downside is mine arrived damaged as u can see below
but big thumbs up to summit racing , no questions asked and they sent out a new hood by the time i was off the phone with them , should be here by friday as the replacement is comming from nv instead of ohio , why they didnt just ship it from nv to begin with is beyond me though



and closeups of the damage


this is my fist steel amd hood and i love it , look sso much better then the harwood hoods
the downside is mine arrived damaged as u can see below
but big thumbs up to summit racing , no questions asked and they sent out a new hood by the time i was off the phone with them , should be here by friday as the replacement is comming from nv instead of ohio , why they didnt just ship it from nv to begin with is beyond me though



and closeups of the damage


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lol thanks and yup deffinatly much nicer then the harwood hoods
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my replacement for the first hood they sent will be here tommorow so its looking ral good for getting the car up and running and over to the bodyshop this weekend
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unfortunatly i have to much to do still to get the car to the body shop this weekend
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thnx , i got a bunch done so far today and im going to head back after i drop the wife off at work.
so far today i got the log headers modified and welded back up ready to be bolted back on for the last time
got the holes cut in the hood to mount my oil presure and fuel presure gauges in the cowl by the windshield
when i head back im going to get the headers and turbos/downpipes mounted up for the last time
then im going to drop the nose off the car so i can cut the front crash bar and move my intercooler up into the nose more
going to try to get the trans pan off today so i can weld in abung for the trans temp gauge
car should be back on the road no later then wensday, on mobnday i need to pick up a few odd bolts and a thing of shrink tubing so i can finish up my last lil bit of wiring, ive also now got the megasquirt controlling pumps #2 and 3 pump 1 comes on with the key
i also got real sneaky with my launch control/antilag switch im using the hatch release switch to active it instead of a pushbutton/toggle in the car
so far today i got the log headers modified and welded back up ready to be bolted back on for the last time
got the holes cut in the hood to mount my oil presure and fuel presure gauges in the cowl by the windshield
when i head back im going to get the headers and turbos/downpipes mounted up for the last time
then im going to drop the nose off the car so i can cut the front crash bar and move my intercooler up into the nose more
going to try to get the trans pan off today so i can weld in abung for the trans temp gauge
car should be back on the road no later then wensday, on mobnday i need to pick up a few odd bolts and a thing of shrink tubing so i can finish up my last lil bit of wiring, ive also now got the megasquirt controlling pumps #2 and 3 pump 1 comes on with the key
i also got real sneaky with my launch control/antilag switch im using the hatch release switch to active it instead of a pushbutton/toggle in the car
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figured id update this before i head to bed
i got the headers modified and installed for the last time, turbos are also bolted on for the last time
downpipes need to be modified to fit past the new wastegate placement
got the oil presure and fuel presure gauges mounted up
also picked up a massive intercooler out of a diesel , lets just say it takes up the entire front of the car ,makes my 12x32x4 intercooler look small
i also rewired the fuel pumps
pump #1 is on with the key
pump #2 and pump #3 are both ecm controlled and are triggered by boost presure
my antilag/launchcontrol switch has been moved from a toggle to the factory hatch release switch ( no more toggles in the car for anything , so besides some gauges in the car when u look inside it there wont be anything to really give away whats under the hood
on the todo list is weld in a bung for the trans temp sending unit so i can datalog trans temp
modify downpipes
fit the new intercooler
and install the correct spark plugs ones i have now are way to hot
down the road i will be switching to a sequential injection , and cop ignition system
im hoping to be driving the car by wensday or thursday at the latest
i got the headers modified and installed for the last time, turbos are also bolted on for the last time
downpipes need to be modified to fit past the new wastegate placement
got the oil presure and fuel presure gauges mounted up
also picked up a massive intercooler out of a diesel , lets just say it takes up the entire front of the car ,makes my 12x32x4 intercooler look small
i also rewired the fuel pumps
pump #1 is on with the key
pump #2 and pump #3 are both ecm controlled and are triggered by boost presure
my antilag/launchcontrol switch has been moved from a toggle to the factory hatch release switch ( no more toggles in the car for anything , so besides some gauges in the car when u look inside it there wont be anything to really give away whats under the hood
on the todo list is weld in a bung for the trans temp sending unit so i can datalog trans temp
modify downpipes
fit the new intercooler
and install the correct spark plugs ones i have now are way to hot
down the road i will be switching to a sequential injection , and cop ignition system
im hoping to be driving the car by wensday or thursday at the latest
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car will be back on the road this weekend !!!!!!!!!!!!
i picked up the last few parts i needed yesterday.
holy crap 31$'s for a bottle of gm e.o.s from the dealer ,ill tell ya what that crap has gotten expensive , so after the next oil change ill switch to royal purple or some other oil that has the zinc in it
also picked up the right heat range spark plugs
up and fowards are for sale they are currently only tacked together so i can change the collector and put whatever flange u want on it for the buyer
i picked up the last few parts i needed yesterday.
holy crap 31$'s for a bottle of gm e.o.s from the dealer ,ill tell ya what that crap has gotten expensive , so after the next oil change ill switch to royal purple or some other oil that has the zinc in it
also picked up the right heat range spark plugs
up and fowards are for sale they are currently only tacked together so i can change the collector and put whatever flange u want on it for the buyer
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holy crap 31$'s for a bottle of gm e.o.s from the dealer , ill tell ya what that crap has gotten expensive...

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well i should have been driving the car home today ,only thing left to do was finish up the wiring and mount the fpr , got everything done except i didnt see my tps pigtial fall on the floor and i stepped on it and broke it, of course i do this about 30 mins after the only parts store in town closes.
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From: NYC / Jersey
Car: 1990 Trans Am GTA
Engine: Turbo 305 w/MS2
Transmission: 700R4
Re: and so it starts
Will you freaking throw up an idle video already so I can start throwing up some driving videos, I am waiting for you ya know cuz the other Dave seems to be gone, and the two of our builds are the only one's left that are being documented/chronicled with a SBC and video lol. No excuses today, get that freaking Megasquirt of yours freaking Mega moving for crying out loud already...
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Car: 89 RS 89 iroc 87 firebird
Engine: 3.1 Turbo/ 355 twin turbo
Transmission: a4 w/ 4500 stall/ a4 / t5
Axle/Gears: strange s60 /w 3:42's
Re: and so it starts
Will you freaking throw up an idle video already so I can start throwing up some driving videos, I am waiting for you ya know cuz the other Dave seems to be gone, and the two of our builds are the only one's left that are being documented/chronicled with a SBC and video lol. No excuses today, get that freaking Megasquirt of yours freaking Mega moving for crying out loud already... 










