Fuel system
Thread Starter
Member
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 489
Likes: 0
From: wv
Car: 92 rs
Engine: 355 stealth ram, dart heads, S480
Transmission: 4L80E
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Fuel system
Im swapping to the LS1 tank. Looking at fuel pump opions. Walbro just cane out with a 525lph. This is an old school 355 with a S480. Any thoughts or other ideas?
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 25,895
Likes: 429
From: Pittsburgh PA
Car: 89 Iroc-z
Engine: 555 BBC Turbo
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: MWC 9” 3.00
Re: Fuel system
What fuel? Dual 255’s will take you to 1000 whp and likely break that oe block lol
Thread Starter
Member
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 489
Likes: 0
From: wv
Car: 92 rs
Engine: 355 stealth ram, dart heads, S480
Transmission: 4L80E
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Fuel system
Pump gas 93. My goal is 700 at the tires for this engine. But I’m working on a LS stroker for when it let loose. I have a habit of going overkill. Lol.
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 25,895
Likes: 429
From: Pittsburgh PA
Car: 89 Iroc-z
Engine: 555 BBC Turbo
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: MWC 9” 3.00
Re: Fuel system
Single 450 will do that easily. But if more is planned later put atleast dual 255 in or one 255 and a 450 piggyback
Trending Topics
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 25,895
Likes: 429
From: Pittsburgh PA
Car: 89 Iroc-z
Engine: 555 BBC Turbo
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: MWC 9” 3.00
Re: Fuel system
Didnot see that, and not familiar with it. Appears same size as 450 so not a bad option. 255’s might be cheaper in the end allowing minimal fuel bypass during cruise but similar capacity when in full tilt
Supreme Member



Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 3,306
Likes: 77
From: Fl
Car: 5.3L turbo 2800lbs RWD
Engine: Prefer 3L Iron & 5.3L Aluminum
Transmission: 4l80e
Axle/Gears: 3.512
Re: Fuel system
If you are going to drive on the street daily the cheaper, 'smarter', quieter option is try to get a pair of cheaper, smaller pumps that will use less current while only 1 is operating, and will produce less heat in the fuel. The smaller pumps usually have anti-drainback (check valves) which promote daily driving activities whereas the 1-big walbro pumps do not (they need to prime from scratch before you start as the fuel tends to drain back to the tank after time). It will also be quieter (depends how quiet your engine is if you notice). Another big factor is how easy the pumps are to access, in some applications the tank is extremely easy to open and swap pumps around, making it less of a chore to try new things.
On the other hand, 2-pumps can be tedious and nightmarish to install if you are not a fuel system junky and familiar with the system works. If you are not up the challenge of running two pumps and are more of the 'keep it simple' (I prefer simple myself) then 1 pump to do the job seems like the best deal even if it comes with some additional drawbacks (heat and current draw). I Would probably try measuring the fuel temperature if I was really worried about it to determine if it was a problem or not, definitely don't just blindly assume it stays cool after 2 hours of run time.
On the other hand, 2-pumps can be tedious and nightmarish to install if you are not a fuel system junky and familiar with the system works. If you are not up the challenge of running two pumps and are more of the 'keep it simple' (I prefer simple myself) then 1 pump to do the job seems like the best deal even if it comes with some additional drawbacks (heat and current draw). I Would probably try measuring the fuel temperature if I was really worried about it to determine if it was a problem or not, definitely don't just blindly assume it stays cool after 2 hours of run time.
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 10,415
Likes: 2,083
Car: '89 Firebird
Engine: 7.0L
Transmission: T56
Re: Fuel system
The 255 is the only pump I know of that keeps the venturi tube. Lonnies sells a 'double pumper' that fits inside the 4th gen bucket. Go larger and you have to cut open the bucket. 4th gen tank is just a vast cavity with no baffling. The venturi and bucket is your friend.
Supreme Member
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,074
Likes: 9
From: VA
Car: 88 camaro irocz
Engine: l98 tpi
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 2.77
Re: Fuel system
will the stock feed an return line be ok with a 450 pump ? where can i get a a intank walbro 450 pump for a 88 iroc ?
Last edited by freaky; Oct 8, 2018 at 12:31 AM.
Supreme Member
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,074
Likes: 9
From: VA
Car: 88 camaro irocz
Engine: l98 tpi
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 2.77
Re: Fuel system
http://walbrofuelpumps.com/450lph-wa...f90000267.html
will this work for 93 octane to ?
will this work for 93 octane to ?
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,917
Likes: 326
From: NJ
Car: 1987 IROC-Z
Engine: 406 on N20 w/ EFI
Transmission: P.B. 700R4
Axle/Gears: 12 bolt w/ 3.91
Re: Fuel system
im no expert but I had asked a similar question here last year when i upgraded to my 340 lph pump which will eventually be feeding a 550 hp NA engine along with a 200 wet shot.
I decided to go with a -8an feed line and a -6 return line along with the proper fittings.
i did this for peace of mind and because I was dropping the tank anyways to do the pump and wiring upgrade.
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 25,895
Likes: 429
From: Pittsburgh PA
Car: 89 Iroc-z
Engine: 555 BBC Turbo
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: MWC 9” 3.00
Re: Fuel system
With a regulator you can try to adjust pressure. Small return may jump pressure up some and you’ll have to see if you can lower it back in range. But it should be ok.
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 735
Likes: 7
From: San Diego, CA
Car: 89 GTA
Engine: 6.0L Procharged
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: 4.10
Re: Fuel system
I'm running dual 450s in an LS1 tank. If I just have one pump on, it runs out of fuel around 10 pounds of boost. I'm calculating the dual 450s are good for about 1000 at the flywheel.
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 25,895
Likes: 429
From: Pittsburgh PA
Car: 89 Iroc-z
Engine: 555 BBC Turbo
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: MWC 9” 3.00
Re: Fuel system
what fuel and what size lines. On e85 i can see this but on gas they should be well over 1000 if pressure is kept low enough with right size lines
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
cort351w
TPI
8
Jan 13, 2002 11:10 PM
87_Camaro
V6
5
Aug 6, 2001 08:32 AM






