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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 09:24 AM
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I am no newbie to engines, mods or how they work so u don't have to explain every detail but I have never worked with NOS before so I thought I would come to u guys to help me out. I just bought a 120hp shot NOS kit w/ purge valve, blown down tube, bottle blanket, bottle heater and basically everything I need and some extras as u can see. Now I do not have any forged internals but my throttle body is modified with tb spacer, matching injectors, injector spacer, dremeled out the restrictive stuff, 14x3 open element,drop base and an adjustable fuel pressure regulator. My ignition upgrades include MSD Cap/Rotor, MSD Blaster Coil, MSD 8.5mm Superconductor wires and .045 gapped Rapidfire plugs.

I know timing and fuel pressure is a big issue in keeping your internals from going and thats what I wanted to ask u guys. What are some extras and tips,besides getting forged internals, that would keep my 120 shot from blowing the engine. Like spark plugs to run, what else to get that would be good insurance like a MSD Timing Control Box and how it works, etc...

I know that if u run it right u can do the shot I am doing, and the guy before had it on his car and used it to drag race and he had no internal work done on his engine and he ran a 13.18 in the 1/4 mile + slicks.
Anyways, so can ya help a NOS newbie out?
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 02:25 PM
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I just realized I am was calling N20, NOS. LoL, sorry guys, its been a long morning already here at work, but u guys know what I mean.
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 02:48 PM
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First, congrats on the nos purchase...

since this is your first time using it, i suggest having it professionally installed if you've never done anything like this before.
Dont run a platinum tipped spark plug with nos, your instruction book even tells you to change em out. A copper tipped plug works just fine.
Start with a small jet. Dont try to run your 125 shot first, jet with a 75 shot, test, and slowly increase from there.

if you want some good advice on safety devices, things such as a fuel pressure switch will shut off the NOS if your fuel pressure drops, so you dont run lean. Run a RPM window timer to control activation of your nitrous from a company like MSD, NOS, etc. Have it activate at 3,000 rpm's and shut down around 5800. Do not activate your NOS below 3k RPMs.

Get yourself an Air/Fuel gauge so you can watch your mixture as you're running. If you lean up, shut the kit down.

As long as you have the kit properly installed by someone who knows what they are doing, and take all their advice on the use of it, you will not need forged pistons, etc. It can be used safely on a rather stock engine.

tune your nos kit, as i said earlier, by running a small shot first, and working your way up.

And remember, just because it worked on the Fast and the Furious, doesnt mean it works the same way in real life.
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 03:54 PM
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And remember, just because it worked on the Fast and the Furious, doesnt mean it works the same way in real life
U don't know how many times I have told other people that. LoL. I am not new to performance cars and I have been working on them for 4 years now including my own, learning on my own and from doing it myslef along with this board, but for some reason, none of my friends and there hot rods or sports cars have used N20 before so I never got to mess with it.

I will do what ya said. Buy a fuel/air ratio guage and take everything to a pro. Anymore advice would be helpful.
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 03:56 PM
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Yeah and I am buying the MSD External HEI Adjustable Timing Control device from the same guy for 75 bucks shipped.
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 11:14 PM
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That timing control thingy is a sweet little device. 1-2 degrees retard per 50 shot will keep you from blowing stuff up.
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Old Feb 5, 2002 | 09:52 AM
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I wouldn't pay anyone to install N20. I've never done it untill I intalled mine. It was time consuming but very easy. If you have all your instructions you should be able to do it. Took me 2 days, one for the hardware and one for the electronics. This includes a bottle heater, fuel pressure sfety switch, and purge. Its not hard, just take your time and try to figure out where you want everything to run(wireing, N20 line), this will make it go a lot faster. Good luck!
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Old Feb 5, 2002 | 09:57 AM
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From: Davison / Troy ,Michigan
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Thanks a million guys.
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Old Feb 6, 2002 | 02:52 PM
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What is the part number for the kit you bought i am looking for one for myself and how much did it run you???thanks
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Old Feb 6, 2002 | 03:40 PM
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From: Davison / Troy ,Michigan
Car: 1991 Pontiac Firebird
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I got it from a friend actually. So it is used but the part number for it is

#NOS-05153
I know it says 100-150 but I guess my friend bought the 75-125hp jets instead. :rockon:
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