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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 10:34 AM
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unported TPI/Stock internal L98 goes 11.70 @ 119

Does anyone remember Jim Secrest's Red IROC? I looked for the copy of GMHTP around here but couldn't find it. So I looked on the net. Here is the article:

Though the 5.7-liter engine has been left completely unaltered, don't mistake this car for a weak-in-the-knees stocker."My goal with this car is to go as fast as possible with an internally stock engine. I haven't even added headers to the car," Secrest tells us.

Accordingly, the first mod made by Secrest came from a bottle in the form of a 150 horsepower hit of nitrous oxide. While it definitely brought the car to life, it just wasn't enough.

The following year was greeted by the arrival of an intercooled ATI Procharger. Stuffing 12psi of boost into the already nitrous-sniffing mill was just the ticket to quell Secrest's longing for acceleration. The car has been in its current configuration for approximately three years with no parts breakage. That is amazing, and speaks volumes about proper tuning of a combination.

A complete MSD ignition system is responsible for lighting off the charge. This car, too, retains its stock ECM and even its stock chip. Secrest did tell us of his rearely seen dual PROM holder. "It automatically switches to the second chip when the nitrous system is activated. That chip is custom programmed to pull out timing and add fuel for use with the juice," he explains.

A 2,800rpm torque converter transfers power to the National-built 700R4. Stock exhaust manifolds dump into a Random Technology Y-pipe with catalytic converters and on through the 3-inch cat-back system.

The underpinnings of Secrest's IROC have been treated to some major enhancements. The suspension now sports a set of Eibach springs with Lakewood 90/10 shocks up front and AVO shocks in the rear. The suspension combination alone was responsible for whacking a whopping four-tenths of the car's timeslip.

The stock rear contains a set of 3.73 cogs. Rolling stock for the street consists of 17-inch billet Center Lines with matching BFG Comp T/As. AT the track, Secrest changes over to 16-inch Drag Radials. This car is definitely no poseur with a best pass of 11.70 at over 119mph. Sixty-foot times are good: in the mid-1.60's.
MANNNN! I would love to put on some Nitrous after the blower. What are your thoughts?
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 10:54 AM
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thats cool and all but there are ls1's in the 9's on blower and juice with stock drivetrain.
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 11:30 AM
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I'm not necessarily impressed with the 1/4 mile time as I am with him running that time on stock tpi and putting both 12 # of boost and 150 shot of nitrous. Pretty amazing, huh?
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 11:42 AM
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I'm not necessarily impressed with the 1/4 mile time....

I tend to agree. Heck, look at my results with 10# boost and no nitrous -- on a 305 at that. It scares me to think what would happen if I added a 150 shot....

Maybe I should contact GMHTP with stats on my ride.....

...as I am with him running that time on stock tpi and putting both 12 # of boost and 150 shot of nitrous. Pretty amazing, huh?

I think it's amazing that he can get away with two "intense" power adders on a stock bottom.
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 12:30 PM
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I couldn't imagine if you put 150 shot on yours! You have mail :lala:
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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 02:41 AM
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it sounds a little far fetched to me, the two power adders together will make way more horsepower than the stock configuration can handle; not to mention stock exhaust...hitting about 120 at the traps woulnd't that be close or over 400 horsepower.

that's alot for an engine to take on stock steel components......but it definately sounds awsome; i would love to get mine to do that.

i wonder how he had his custom fuel setup?

definately impressive for a stock tpi in any means......... :hail:
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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 06:52 AM
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I know Jim probably better than anyone here.

He built my motor and I purchased my first blower form him in 96.He owned Illusion Motorsports which is no longer in buisness.He marketed and engineered Impalla SS ATI supercharger kits in the mid 90s,he was the only shop to sell them at the time.One of his cars he built was featured in Chevy High Performance ,a 1996 Impalla making 700hp on 11 to 1 compression and 15lbs of boost and a 50 shot of nitrous.The car went a crazy 12.0 at 130mph buring the tires all the way down the track.It was built for the top end,goal was 200 mph.A couple of years later I asked about the impalla if it went any faster,he told me it went a low 10.And it was street driven.He is a straight shooter,I have not spoken with him since he left the Nickens brothers crew team.His car is an 89 like mine,but the motor is completly stock.It is not factory stock though.Motor is completly rebuilt stock motor ,but completly bluprinted.He even was using the stock manifolds and only a slp ypipe.He was using a switch chip that activated when the nitrous was activated.It pulled timing.I to questioned the use of nitrous with his car.He said he only hits it off the line to help spool up the boost fast,only past the 60fts,he does not run it all the way down the track.Im sure the car would run alot faster if he ran the nitrous all the way down the track,but the fact the engine has stock component is it still,is the limiting factor.And he know this.Its a full weight Iroc with AC and all the emmisions equipment.It is street driven so reliability is a concern.So to answer everyone question,the motor is completly stock yes,stock heads and cam,and internals.It is quite fast for what it has.He built it to hold together,and Im sure if he ran the bottle for a full run it would definatly hurt the engine. He is a great guy and Im sure not into speed as we are at a young age,Jim is in his 50s if Im not mistaken,Im sure the car has enough power for him.I was actually on the phone with him when he was talking to Johnny Hunkins,he had the car stored away for a while,and was beng asked on the condition of the car if I remember correctly.He doesnt drive it much,but he has had that combo on the car for quite some time,mid 90s Im sure.Hope this answers your question.
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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 07:56 AM
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Geeez. When someone says stock bottom end it should be a stock bottom end ... as delivered from the factory. He should have said stock rebuilt bottom end Rebuilding the bottom end and not using SOME TYPE of better components never happens. Guaranteed that he has better rod bolts, better rings, bearings etc. Possibly weight matched all the rods, did some polishing, etc. When you think of stock bottom end you think of my motor. Its never been apart on the lowend. As delivered from GM.

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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 01:29 PM
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Im on a totally stock L05 bottom end (in the camaro and suburban)...not even new rings or rod bolts...two bolt mains. Its a lot harder than some people think to break these parts
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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 04:27 PM
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To my knowledge, there is no glory in having a stock bottom end. I cannot see why people advertise "I have a stock bottom end, take that!"
Ok well, I have one too besides a summit oil pump. Can I still be in the club?
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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 07:51 PM
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Is he running a FMU with that setup??

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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 10:44 PM
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oh yeah well mines forged so take that!
NO seriouselly i find it amazing, anyone with a stock bottom end and boost is usually nuts or knows what they are doing. a hint of detonation is all it takes....
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Old Mar 15, 2002 | 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by 87Z-ya
thats cool and all but there are ls1's in the 9's on blower and juice with stock drivetrain.
Man you can get those times with a stock Z-06 with slicks on it. The mph will be lower about 116 for the stock z-06. With a cat delete the Z-06 will trip the clocks in the mid 11's with traps in the 118-119 range. That is a near stock car with no power adders.
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Old Mar 16, 2002 | 11:54 PM
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Too expensive........

For the price of a Z-06 based car we could all easily modify a 3rd gen into the 9 second club and beyond, even NA with a BB............ 8-)

I like my 3rd gens, way easier to work on.........

Just my humble thoughts...........
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 10:09 AM
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How do you know the zo6 will go that much faster with slicks?? A cat delete?? Are you serious? Those are very well designed cats. You think that removing them will give 5 or six mph? Please post factual data supporting your statements. Or stop assuming information.
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 10:54 PM
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Hey the 3.8 block will hold up to 25# of boost on an intercooled turbo with proper tuning. Usually have to use alky injection to, but hey it will take it and is good for low 10's in the quarter(with other bol ons and chassis part) on a V6 :rockon:
IMagine id that could be harnessed on a 383, or 454!
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Old Mar 22, 2002 | 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by 89IROCZZ4
I'm not necessarily impressed with the 1/4 mile time as I am with him running that time on stock tpi and putting both 12 # of boost and 150 shot of nitrous. Pretty amazing, huh?
I'm assuming he probably pulled a lot of juice out of it after the blower install. Usually the most horsepower gain form nitrous in a forced induction application is realized from it's cooling effect on the intake charge.

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Old Mar 22, 2002 | 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by GofasterFirebird
To my knowledge, there is no glory in having a stock bottom end. I cannot see why people advertise "I have a stock bottom end, take that!"
Ok well, I have one too besides a summit oil pump. Can I still be in the club?
I like it because I know when to duck on the dyno or at the dragstrip to avoid being hit by parts. kinda like with the AMC's or fords with FE engines.
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Old Apr 9, 2002 | 07:45 PM
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Damn, some of you guys just live on here to flame and rip people.
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Old Apr 9, 2002 | 07:54 PM
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I say that only because I agree with the quote.
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