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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 02:34 AM
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Car: 91z28 and 88 SC thats for sale,in the sig
Engine: 305 TPI soon 383 stroker or 327
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hydraulic clutch problem

ok,this sucks. i was leavin my neighborhood last night n my clutch kinda popped,i felt it in the pedal atelast, and it wouldnt go into gear,its hydraulic. it had pressure but i couldnt get it into gear. then it started working again. now its working,but i wanna fix it before it does this when im somewhere important. i dunno if this ahs anything to do with it,but a while back id have the clutch pressed down for a lil bit n itd loose all pressure and start engaging the clutch,if anyone has any ideas,lemme know,thanx
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 06:45 PM
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You might need a new clutch master cylinder and slave selonoid...Happened on lots of rice trucks I've had...
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 07:36 PM
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Car: 91z28 and 88 SC thats for sale,in the sig
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ok,when i was under the car,i ahd a friend press the clutch pedal and the release cylender moved maybe an inch or so. and i was pumping it by hand from underneath and some hydraulic fluid was drippin down from up under the engine compartment. so i dont know if that helps or not.so im guessing its either the master cylender or the release cylender,but im more towards the master cylender.
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Old Sep 8, 2002 | 09:28 PM
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Replace them both....If your master is out..the slave cylinder isnt too far behind....Do it right and replace both
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Old Sep 8, 2002 | 09:53 PM
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Car: 91z28 and 88 SC thats for sale,in the sig
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you live near me right beau? u wanna come and look for urself? im thinkin now it might be my synchros or somethin, but i dunno,cuz all gears wont go. im confused as hell right now. the slave moves when i press the clutch,but the arm going from the slave to the clutch , when i press it in my hand,it kind of wiggles and seems loose. i might drop the tranny tomorrow. when the car was rollin, i could slide it into gear 2.lemme know ,later
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Old Sep 8, 2002 | 10:10 PM
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HEy..I live at Scottsdale and Camelback...I would be willin to look at it ...Does the little bar on the slave cylinder move enough to disengage the clutch??I really dont think it has anything to do with the inards of the tranny..go the easy route first then if that doesnt work go on to the next thing...
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Old Sep 9, 2002 | 12:54 AM
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Car: 91z28 and 88 SC thats for sale,in the sig
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im offa the 101 and northern. yeah,i was screwin w/ it agian today and when the cars runnin the slave moves less. im pretty sure its the slave or master now. i dont think it moves enough to diengage the clutch
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Old Sep 9, 2002 | 03:51 PM
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Car: 91z28 and 88 SC thats for sale,in the sig
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ok,today i took off the slave cylender and the fork that runs from the slave into the bellhousing is loose as hell. i was wiggling it around really easily when it was disconnected. you could hear it inside the housing moving around. couldnt it be that the nut came off or somethin,and to fix that id ahfta drop my tranny right?someone can hlep me,i dont mind at all,really,lol
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Old Sep 9, 2002 | 04:27 PM
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i meant to say i think its the release bearing,anyone wanna help me fix it, i havent messed w/ a clutch yet.
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Old Sep 9, 2002 | 07:43 PM
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does the bearing squeel at all or make noise???Its really not that hard of a job but will take some time...you'll figure it out once your in there,,,
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Old Sep 9, 2002 | 08:00 PM
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it doesnt squeel, but i got under the car n tried to move the clutch fork by hand to get it into gear, and the spring inside didnt really ahve mutch force behind it,it felt really loose., i could move the fork around inside the bellhousing some
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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 03:37 AM
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ok,the trannys out, when i tok it out, the release bearing and a small spring fell out and were sittin inside the bellhousing, i'll post some pics later on. does that help w/ identifying what the hell was wrong w/ it, and whats the small spring to,it was about an inch n a half long
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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 03:42 AM
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heres the fork inside the bellhousing, i could move it around and slide it out if i wanted to.
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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 03:43 AM
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this is what fell out
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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 03:44 AM
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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 09:01 PM
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Well dude..looking at that the tranny is not shot but you will need new clutch fork,bearing and clutch itself...The spring looks like one of the pressure plate springs...replace those parts and you will be set to go..
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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 10:50 PM
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The smaller round peice is your throw out bearing. The spring is probably from the pressure plate itself.

New clutch disc, pressure plate throw out bearing and by the looks of it, a new fork.

Good luck. Spend the $ on the alignment tool, it will make the re-assembly 100% easier and you probably wont have to do it a second time.
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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 10:50 PM
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Car: 91z28 and 88 SC thats for sale,in the sig
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i had a mechanic friend come over today and he said the clutch is fine,its only a year old, if that. i took off the bellhousing and no springs are missing from the pressure plate or anything, i think the spring was on the fork itself because theirs a small place on the back of the fork for somethin round to go over the piece sticking out.
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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 11:01 PM
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Gee chris...thanks for clarifying exactly what I said!!hahahahahaha!!!
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 02:25 PM
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i dont wanna put any mroe money into this drivetrain cuz its all comin out in a few months, im putitn in a 383 stroker.im prolly gonna start buildin the motor next week when i get the block back. i figured out what the hell was wront, the fork was just loose and the slave cylende wasnt pushing the bearing far enough in to move the clutch crap.the spring is from i dont know where though,it snot th rpessure plate springs thoug,their all their
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 09:21 PM
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You might wanna go w/ the 94 T56 hydraulics too. Steel braided line, fits in the firewall the same, and the slave will work too, and the assy. is cheaper than the T5 stuff, new from GM vs. new from GM.
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