EBC Brakes
EBC Brakes
Anyone have any experience with them. They make rotors and pads. There pads are supposed to be dustless and great stopping. They are called green stuff. GP over on ls1.com. Wonder if anyone had experince with them.
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I just got a set for my 1LE upgrade but I haven't installed them yet. I used them exclusively on my ZX6 Ninja and they are (were) a great pad. They have been making pads for years and like I said are very popular on motorcycles. I don't think you'd be going wrong by buying them.
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Oh yeah....greenstuff for street, red stuff for race.
Ed
Oh yeah....greenstuff for street, red stuff for race.
I just installed EBC rotors for the first time and EBC pads for the 2nd time today. I used the GreenStuff pads for awhile with some cheap rotors and they got warped, so this time I speant the money and go the good stuff. So far they seem perfect. I swear by EBC. They have a little whining noise right now, but EBC says that goes away after about 200 miles bed-in time. All in all I speant $280 on the pads and rotors from TireRack.com. I also replaced the calipers with re-manufactured ones for $12.99 each.
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O.K. I Have tried EBC greenstuff pads and am not impressed at all.
I only went this route because of there popular use around these board- and figured I'd give them a try. They have been on there for about a month now and I am ready to scrap them and go back to my Stillen pads.
When I put them in and conditioned them, right off the bat I noticed a difference between their feel and the Stillen pads' feel that I know well even unbedded.
EBC pads after broken in have too much initial bite ( not smooth and predictalbe/controllable)
They produce fade in conditions where Stillen pads never do. Stillen pads get even better with heat, however, they are warmed up by the time you reach the end of your street corner(Not a full race pad- great for street use)Normal rotor friction without apply brakes will warm them in about 1 min or so.
EBC pads lock too easily- Stillen pads have a much better sweet spot- meaning you can come down harder on them without locking as soon
Release feels about the same on both pads.
Stillen are less expensive for my application also ($62 vs. $79 for EBC)
I would recommend you guys try them and stay away from the EBC marketing bandwagon. EBC are not bad but Stillen is a better pad hands down- I promise you- I have run these pads on all of my vehicles for years now and regrete trying the EBC's
P.S. I run Stillen rotors on all my cars also.
http://www.stillen.com/brakepros.asp?subcat=263
I only went this route because of there popular use around these board- and figured I'd give them a try. They have been on there for about a month now and I am ready to scrap them and go back to my Stillen pads.
When I put them in and conditioned them, right off the bat I noticed a difference between their feel and the Stillen pads' feel that I know well even unbedded.
EBC pads after broken in have too much initial bite ( not smooth and predictalbe/controllable)
They produce fade in conditions where Stillen pads never do. Stillen pads get even better with heat, however, they are warmed up by the time you reach the end of your street corner(Not a full race pad- great for street use)Normal rotor friction without apply brakes will warm them in about 1 min or so.
EBC pads lock too easily- Stillen pads have a much better sweet spot- meaning you can come down harder on them without locking as soon
Release feels about the same on both pads.
Stillen are less expensive for my application also ($62 vs. $79 for EBC)
I would recommend you guys try them and stay away from the EBC marketing bandwagon. EBC are not bad but Stillen is a better pad hands down- I promise you- I have run these pads on all of my vehicles for years now and regrete trying the EBC's
P.S. I run Stillen rotors on all my cars also.
http://www.stillen.com/brakepros.asp?subcat=263
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I have a set of EBC's waiting to go on my car so I can't comment on stopping performance. That will be determined once my 1LE upgrade is on the car.
However, I can comment on the craftsmanship of the EBC pads. IMHO, they aren't put togther as good as they could (should) be. For $80 I expected better build quality. One screech clip was loose and all the green paint on the backing plates created a poor fit in my 1LE caliper carriers.
To remedy the problem I broke out the Dremel and smoothed and polished ALL the contact surfaces of the pad backing plates that interact with the carriers. This made for a big improvement, but again, at $80 I shouldn't have to "massage" the pads to make them fit better.
When the time comes I'll be going back to Hawk or may try the Stillen pads AGood2.8 recommended.
However, I can comment on the craftsmanship of the EBC pads. IMHO, they aren't put togther as good as they could (should) be. For $80 I expected better build quality. One screech clip was loose and all the green paint on the backing plates created a poor fit in my 1LE caliper carriers.
To remedy the problem I broke out the Dremel and smoothed and polished ALL the contact surfaces of the pad backing plates that interact with the carriers. This made for a big improvement, but again, at $80 I shouldn't have to "massage" the pads to make them fit better.
When the time comes I'll be going back to Hawk or may try the Stillen pads AGood2.8 recommended.
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I agree...I had to "massage" my pads to fit in there also. I'll be going with ceramic pads next time...too much dust with the EBCs.
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Originally posted by AGood2.8
O.K. I Have tried EBC greenstuff pads and am not impressed at all.
I only went this route because of there popular use around these board- and figured I'd give them a try. They have been on there for about a month now and I am ready to scrap them and go back to my Stillen pads.
When I put them in and conditioned them, right off the bat I noticed a difference between their feel and the Stillen pads' feel that I know well even unbedded.
EBC pads after broken in have too much initial bite ( not smooth and predictalbe/controllable)
They produce fade in conditions where Stillen pads never do. Stillen pads get even better with heat, however, they are warmed up by the time you reach the end of your street corner(Not a full race pad- great for street use)Normal rotor friction without apply brakes will warm them in about 1 min or so.
EBC pads lock too easily- Stillen pads have a much better sweet spot- meaning you can come down harder on them without locking as soon
Release feels about the same on both pads.
Stillen are less expensive for my application also ($62 vs. $79 for EBC)
I would recommend you guys try them and stay away from the EBC marketing bandwagon. EBC are not bad but Stillen is a better pad hands down- I promise you- I have run these pads on all of my vehicles for years now and regrete trying the EBC's
P.S. I run Stillen rotors on all my cars also.
http://www.stillen.com/brakepros.asp?subcat=263
O.K. I Have tried EBC greenstuff pads and am not impressed at all.
I only went this route because of there popular use around these board- and figured I'd give them a try. They have been on there for about a month now and I am ready to scrap them and go back to my Stillen pads.
When I put them in and conditioned them, right off the bat I noticed a difference between their feel and the Stillen pads' feel that I know well even unbedded.
EBC pads after broken in have too much initial bite ( not smooth and predictalbe/controllable)
They produce fade in conditions where Stillen pads never do. Stillen pads get even better with heat, however, they are warmed up by the time you reach the end of your street corner(Not a full race pad- great for street use)Normal rotor friction without apply brakes will warm them in about 1 min or so.
EBC pads lock too easily- Stillen pads have a much better sweet spot- meaning you can come down harder on them without locking as soon
Release feels about the same on both pads.
Stillen are less expensive for my application also ($62 vs. $79 for EBC)
I would recommend you guys try them and stay away from the EBC marketing bandwagon. EBC are not bad but Stillen is a better pad hands down- I promise you- I have run these pads on all of my vehicles for years now and regrete trying the EBC's
P.S. I run Stillen rotors on all my cars also.
http://www.stillen.com/brakepros.asp?subcat=263
I haven't tried the greenstuff in my car but i know in the MC world they are not the best. Strangly EBC makes a sintered mettalic MC pad that is incredible. It turms a four finger (motorcycle) stop into a single finger stop. I run them on my suzuki and i love them! The Greenstuff pads faired well for rotor wear but i remember in many tests they were not as good as others. I was thinking about trying the Greenstuff on my car but now i think i will look elsewhere.
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bringing it back form the dead....does anyone else have anything to say on this matter? i need some good stopping power (at least better) but all ive ever heard is ebc, ebc, ebc. would the stillens be better for my street application? also what rotors does one recommend?
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Maybe Hawk's pads??? I dunno...I'm using stock PBR pads in my RS w/ C4 HDs (Iroc w/ EBCs is parked for a while...) and they are pretty good, not much dusting at all.
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I really like my Hawk pads. I use their HP+ for autocross, they're noise, dust alot, and stop great. I've heard others say that their HPS pads are quieter, cleaner, and still stop pretty good (compared to the +).
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