I should be receving mine soon,, hopefully, but I need to find someone to weld them in for me.
Want I want is a few pics. of some installed so I can show them how they go in.
What do you think would be a fair price to pay to have this done?
And I can't do a serch now so ,,HELP!!

Thanks.

 

Here's a pic, not the greatest, but it's something....

 

heres a pic. that someone on the board posted. I saved it so i know how to install when get'em.


He'll probably jump in here and help ya out. he's a great help.

 

Thats perfect. Thanks!


Now how about prices?

 

Spohn's up there! he's a sponsor...I think there $65.....

 

I already bought some ,,I'm curious about what is an average price to have them welded in?

 

I opted for BMR bolt-on units and planned to weld them even before I bought them. Why? I felt they offered greater strength, safety and stability. Notice the extra bracket that runs to the shock mount and welded.

 

If you do not like to measure I would get the BMR ones. It took alot of measuring to get the Spohn one exactly right

 

I also ended up having to change my shocks. They were brand new racetecs. I know they are not the greatest, but they really did not dampen the axle afterwards.

 

What exactly did you have to measure?

 

I wanted to make sure all I was doing was lowering the mounting point not changing the location of the axle to the chassis or the angle of the pinion. To do this I used a piece of all thread to go through the chassis mounting point. I then attached an L bracket I made that came out the same distance as the axle hub. I then measured from this bracket to the center of the axle. I also measured from the bump stop mount to the pad the bump stop hits on the axle. I made sure these measurements were within a 16th of what they were when the LCA's were in the stock mounting point. You probably would not have to be as critical if you have adjustable LCA's.

 

Wishmaster,

Is that Spohn brackets in that pic you posted?

 

yeah Im pretty sure they are.

 

yes those are.

 

Thanks. They are good looking pieces.

 

How much for the BMR ones and where can I get them??

 

http://www.bmrfabrication.com/F3-chassis.htm

 

I also went with the bolt in ones. I too was going to weld them but after 3 years and 0 problems I said he11 with it. + I plan on getting a new rear it the future and all i have to do is take off two bolts and I can put them on the new one.

 

I wonder what it would take to get moser to produce an axle that already has brackets with lower mounting holes. I will soon be upgrading my rear end and I do not feel like performing the task of welding on new location brackets AGAIN. The axle housing are already custom made aren't they? Most the guys using these rear ends will need this provision anyway will they not?

 

110$ BUCKS FOR THOSE FREAKIN' THINGS! Wheew! Geeez, the lakewood LCA's I was planning on getting cost less than that!

 

I paid $89.00 for my BMR bolt in brackets.

 

Where/How?

 

It looks like those relocation brackets are just a piece of 3/16 ( possibly 1/4) steel plate ....with to bends ...and a couple of holes ..........they want WHAT ?!?!?!?!?!



rip offfffffffff .........................it's not like we are driveing imports here ( raped on parts ....for NOOOOOO reason )



I think I will make my own ........I'll post a pic of a diagram ......I don't see why a shop wouldn't fabricate this for you for nothing

 

I would bite my lip if I were you. First off they aren't just bent steel. They have holes drilled in the correct places, come with welded in spacer on the inside of the bracket and new bolts/washers. Considering they're cut and bent, and welded, I would dare to find ANYONE that can have them made for the price Spohn sells his at.

 

Yeah! What he said!

Also note that the BMR units are powder coated for their price. So there - again... lets see you build your own and then send them to get powdercoated all for that price or under in time and materials.

It feels great to vent sometimes

Its late so I'll shut up now.

 

I wasn't aware that you had to have spacers welded into the WELD ON ones, untill I got them. There in there now but It's something that wasn't even in the so called directions that came with them.

 

What brand are you talking about? I know that Spohn's have the spacers welded in already. If you wanted to skimp and do your own go ahead and use washers. Only problem is that they might rust from the friction, tight gap, and low point on car for water to reach. When it's all said and done Spohn's are the perfect product for the perfect price.

 

I bought the BMR ones

 

Excuse me for being ignorant, but what is the purpose for the relocation brackets? I'm sure it improves the suspension, but how exactly???

 

The LCARB's improve traction by changing the way that the force applied by the tires pushing the car forward affects the lower control arms and thus traction. Here is a quick sketch to describe what it does.

Ric

 

By the way I made my brackets and will NEVER DO THAT AGAIN.
Although I am quite happy with how they turned out they took me 6 hours of flat out working to make them. 6 hours times 20$/hour pluss material totals up to about $200 cdn or about $150USD. I could have worked overtime instead purchased the Spohn brackets and still had money left over for beer and pizza while me and my buddys installed em. Doh

Here's a pic of what I made anyway




Don't try making these things the Spohn bracket is a fabulous deal.

Ric

 

Thanks Ric. I don't think it could be explained any better than that. I guess RLBs will be added to my list.

 

Got a dumb question. After you install the relocation brackets does this affect your wheel alignment in anyway?

Oh..two more dumb questions.. after reading the posts Im somewhat confused.

1- I understand that you CAN weld the relocation brackets AFTER you bolt them in but do you HAVE to do any welding after you installed the brackets??

2- Do all LCA's fit the relocation brackets? Because I have Hotchkis LCA's and they are "physically" bigger than other LCA's. (I think they are bigger anyway)

And yes..Hotchkis products are a good amount of money compared to Lakewood. I opted for Hotchkis because I thought their LCA's and panhard rod looked "beefy"

TIA

Dan

 

I had mine done at a welding shop along with the sfcs. They charged me 140-160 for everything. Theres instructions with the spohn brackets. After you have the brackets welded on your ready to go. Might want to prime and paint them.

I don't think the LCAs would be bigger widths from different companies due to that fact if they are how would someone how is just using stock mounts use that lca? It would cut into a companies sale market, since a smaller number of people could actually mount them up.

 

I agree that if anyone is going to get these then they should get the Spohn ones.
First of all they are cheaper. $65.00 compared to $69.95
And 2nd the BMR weld in ones don't have the spacers welded into the inside of them so there not complete and you'r going to have to have some made if you dont have the meens to do it yourself. I dont think you would want to fill that gap with washers, so thats is going to cost you more money.
I got mine as a package deal from Thunder racing and didn't know that at the time so I had to make my own spacers.
I just think that BMR should say that somewere so people will know, and I have found nowere that tells people that, or they should make them with the spacers like spohn dose,, or,, they should lower there price.
Just something I thought everyone should know.

 

does anyone know if the BMR bolt ins will work with my Dana 44 rear??
will they make that much of a differance at the track or on the street ??
Does anyone have time slips to prove the effectiveness of the brackets??
Any hard performance numbers would be appreciated. Thanks

 

Like the man said....for eaze of installation...get the BMR's. You will thank us later

 

Where are you guys getting the BMR ones for 89.95$???

Dyno Don...How much did you pay for yours?

 

There are always GPs on BMR stuff. Check out some of the 4th gen boards. I got my powercoated black BMR bolt ins shipped for $100.

 

I'm sorry, but can someone please tell me what these "LCA Relocation Brackets" are for? I've only heard that they need to be used when you lower the car???? I plan on the Eebach 1" lowering springs soon, will I need these brackets? O.K., I need to know what their purpose is, what will happen if I don't use them, where exactly they get installed, and what gets attached to them. Thanks all! -89IRO

 

Umm, have you tried reading this thread? Read the post by Ratchet.

 

Ummmmmmm, O.K., that diagram is nice, it tells what they do. I would like to know if these LCA relocation brackets are to be used when lowering the car like I described?? I also heard it should be used when you install SFCs, but that one doesn't make sense like the lowering of the car does. Also, with these new brackets, can I use my stock LCAs? Will the fit be fine with the new brackets? BUT, if I wanted to upgrade to new spohn LCAs, is the length the same as stock?

Some other questions- as far as the springs go, do they need to be compressed in order to take the stock ones out? Also, I know the SFCs get installed in a muffler shop, but would I just take the car to like a suspension shop or to have all this crap done? I mean I don't really know of any suspension shops around here (so. cal), I just know there are places to lift a big truck but I don't know if they would do all this stuff. Thanks guys. -89IRO

 

When you lower your car the angle of your LCAs alters for the worse. What the brackets do is correct the angle of the LCA so that more weight is transfered down onto the pavement. The brackets will also help to eliminate wheel hop that is very often a by-product from when you lower your car.

Robert