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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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3 point strut tower brace for a stealth ram camaro

This spring i'm swapping my tpi for a stealth ram. I've heard that the stealth ram sits a little higher than the tpi. I'm looking for a 3 point strut tower brace that will fit with a stealth ram. If anyone knows what will work please let me know. thanks a lot.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 06:57 PM
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This has come up before, and IIRC the consensus was that you have to make your own. If there's a STB on the market that clears the StealthRam, I don't know of it.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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how much higher does the stealth ram sit?
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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Rougly 2"
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 05:44 PM
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significantly higher...making one would be very hard and make it practicle. if you want or need a stb that intake is not for you.
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 09:04 PM
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significantly higher...making one would be very hard and make it practicle. if you want or need a stb that intake is not for you.
Sh*t I learned that the hard way. Bought the HSR right after it came out, put it on and then realized I couldn't use any stb on the market.
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 10:41 PM
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that sux. thanks a lot guys for your info. though
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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Sh*t I learned that the hard way. Bought the HSR right after it came out, put it on and then realized I couldn't use any stb on the market.
yeah i was in the process of adapting one to my fastburn heads but after seeing that a stb really was pretty impossible in all senses of the word i quickly got rid of it. great intake just lacks in that area which for my car i needed to have one.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 11:00 PM
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i will be working on one this winter, when i get the car back together, but from some early planning, it doesnt look to possible to make one that works, and looks good at the same time
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 07:18 AM
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There's a member on these board that made his own STB to clear his HSR. Its a blown 396 too. Cant remember who ATM ... sorry. Maybe try a search?
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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in order to do so you would have to have an extreme hood and some crazy angles...that or literally build it around the unit. major pita.
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by Kandied91z
in order to do so you would have to have an extreme hood and some crazy angles...that or literally build it around the unit. major pita.
Wouldn't something like the bmr unit work? (obviously custom though, just thinking about how it's designed) How it goes across and then has a type of bridge thing over the tpi setup?

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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 11:19 PM
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 11:49 PM
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In my opinion mini ram is just an overpriced LT1 intake.........
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by Meatman
In my opinion mini ram is just an overpriced LT1 intake.........
That's not so much an opinion but fact, there are a few differences but they're the same other than distrib and coolant neck.

And the suggestion for mini ram might be good for someone who is considering both but not for someone who's already running the HSR.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 01:58 AM
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one of my friends has got a custom one that guy in california made short run for people and it uses the front bolts on the strut tower than the bar runs to the front of the intake and connects on the 2 center bolts for top of the fan shroud looks pretty neat chrome. It might clear the stealth ram. and maybe that will give someone an idea on what to look at when making one.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 10:47 AM
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Good idea but anyone running an S/C or turbo would probably get in the way.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by Meatman
In my opinion mini ram is just an overpriced LT1 intake.........
waste of money..
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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The pic I'll show is off of a 1st gen Mustang, but the concept is the same. Something like this should be easy to fab up... Any ideas if it will provide the same stiffness as a traditional STB?


[EDIT] I'm referring to the 3 point brace, not the one in front of the motor [EDIT]
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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it's quite ugly but serves the purpose huh? i'm sure it would be better then nothing and work well.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by Meatman
In my opinion mini ram is just an overpriced LT1 intake.........
Maybe,until you get into a high RPM big cube motor when you need a better intake.... one that can be PORTED (without welding) to match bigger heads...

I think the stealth ram (While a good intake along with the LT1)
needs a little more work to make it work and fit like it should

I wonder where GM got the idea for a short runner intake????

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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 02:10 AM
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Originally posted by Tony Walch
Maybe,until you get into a high RPM big cube motor when you need a better intake.... one that can be PORTED (without welding) to match bigger heads...

I think the stealth ram (While a good intake along with the LT1)
needs a little more work to make it work and fit like it should

I wonder where GM got the idea for a short runner intake????


big misconception......gm had them long before tpis thought about it. even with big cubes tpis is best suited for forced induction. unless you can get one used for cheap they aren't worth the metal their cast with.
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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The shortest runner GM had looked like a steath ram ...and even then it was made by SLP.
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 12:55 PM
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don't forget they had quite a few tpi induction units that were used on test and prototype vehicles. some of which were never used because of emissions and other bs but were viewed by many.
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by Tony Walch
The shortest runner GM had looked like a steath ram ...and even then it was made by SLP.
The shortest runner GM had (before the LT1) came on the OLD Buick V6's, and was made by GM. Look at the late-80's fuel injected 3.8 engine (in a LeSabre for example)....the intake runner is about 3" from plenum to head flange. They just didn't use short runners on the F-body engines.....torque was considered to be more important to the F- and Y-cars, while the V6 sedans needed all the help they could get in the "highway passing-gear horsepower" department. GM had short runners before TPIS was even concieved.
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Originally posted by TheGreatJ
The shortest runner GM had (before the LT1) came on the OLD Buick V6's, and was made by GM. Look at the late-80's fuel injected 3.8 engine (in a LeSabre for example)....the intake runner is about 3" from plenum to head flange. They just didn't use short runners on the F-body engines.....torque was considered to be more important to the F- and Y-cars, while the V6 sedans needed all the help they could get in the "highway passing-gear horsepower" department. GM had short runners before TPIS was even concieved.
Good info.. thanks.... but I should of stated that I was talking about the production F-body motors..

The 89 TTA had some short runners also
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by CrazyHawaiian
There's a member on these board that made his own STB to clear his HSR. Its a blown 396 too. Cant remember who ATM ... sorry. Maybe try a search?

You mean like this?

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...90247014HLnDaR
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:11 PM
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Good info.. thanks.... but I should of stated that I was talking about the production F-body motors..

The 89 TTA had some short runners also

Same motor.....they just upgraded a few parts and added a turbo.
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