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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 03:30 AM
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Bolt on ZR-1 type wheel?

I looked through the old posts, I didnt find what i was looking for.
I want a set of ZR-1/ camaro ss wheels that will bolt directly on a 3rd gen car without spacers. i dont want the tires to stick out.
I want to run 275/40 on all corners. I am willing to go the extra mile to have wheels like these without spacers or sticking out.
Will a 4th gen rear be needed? if so i will get one.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 08:51 AM
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Re: Bolt on ZR-1 type wheel?

Originally posted by 86 sports coupe
I want a set of ZR-1/ camaro ss wheels that will bolt directly on a 3rd gen car without spacers. i dont want the tires to stick out.
I want to run 275/40 on all corners. I am willing to go the extra mile to have wheels like these without spacers or sticking out.
If you get the proper spacers, a set of 17"x9" ZR-1/SS wheels will not stick out much more than stock wheels do.

No one makes 17"X9" ZR-1 or SS replicas to fit 3rd gens. SLP makes a 8" rim though, http://www.slponline.com/view_product.asp?P=81000, but that does not help you run 275's.

Have you thought about Ronal R-15's or ROH ZS wheels? Or maybe other custom wheels?

If you get a 4th gen rear, you will still need to have spacers on the front to use wheels with the 4th gen offset
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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SLP makes them, no spacers, 17x8" 255/45/17 max.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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These don't stick out, anyway I don't trust spacers. The big tire chain stores won't even install them for you.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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Car: 86 sports coupe-83 berlinetta
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Thanks guys, I guess the 245/55/17 Vs the 275/40/17 wouldnt make that much of a difference. I just want a factory looking wheel. The 17 inch ronals would look alright but I wanted a chevy wheel. I think of a pontiac when it comes to the Ronals, but they would look great on any 3rd I guess.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 11:29 PM
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Whats the down side to running wheel spacers? Are they safe?
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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Extra stress loads on the wheel studs.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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Slip on's over a 1/4" are dangerous, bolt on's are perfectly safe. They just become an extension of your wheel. Check out skult's website for the good ones.
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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Thanks guys, i want something that looks good, but safety is a must. I want something that wont snap, when I lean on it, like the drag strip!
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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real thin wheel spacers are not a problem, once they begin to reach certain thicknesses, the wheel studs do take more stress and real thick wheel spacers will obviousely stick the rim out more away from the mounting surface, putting awkward load on the wheel bearings, sometimes causing them to wear quite quickly.
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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You guys are only thinking about slip on wheel spacers. I agree that slip on spacers arent safe & are a bad idea.... But the spacers you would need to run 4th gen wheels would be bolt ons. They will not add any extra load to the wheel/axle parts. The new tire & the old tire will be in the same location. The only difference is that the wheel spacer is making up the room that the old wheel used to.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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There is a company that is making a 17x9.5 wheel for our cars. I am having trouble finding the link at the moment but when I find it I will post it.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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adaptors

im running the ZR1's with ADAPTORS, they look good, and they are dependable. ive taken out to the track and it can take the punishment front my drag radials?


the adaptors are from f-body motorsports


http://www.fbodymotorsports.com/inc/sdetail/2201

if you dont want to use the adapters in the back u need to use the 4th gen, but u are going to need the adapters in the front.
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JerseyMark
You guys are only thinking about slip on wheel spacers. I agree that slip on spacers arent safe & are a bad idea.... But the spacers you would need to run 4th gen wheels would be bolt ons. They will not add any extra load to the wheel/axle parts. The new tire & the old tire will be in the same location. The only difference is that the wheel spacer is making up the room that the old wheel used to.
No extra load… you just keep telling yourself that.

Almost everyone running spacers like that is running the centerline of the wheels ½” – 1-1/2” further out then stock, in most cases running a wheel/tire combination that is 10-15lbs heavier (each) then the stock ones, and on top of that you added a few lbs of billet aluminum, steel studs and nuts to each corner.

In some cases the tires will stick better also increasing load on hardware
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 05:06 AM
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The truth is lots of people are running bolt on spacers on very wide rims with sticky race rubber with no problems. You won't break anything on the street.
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 05:50 AM
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If the rubber is pushed out further... Then yes. There is more load. But for anyone that kept the centerline in the same location as stock, there is no extra force. If you really want to say the extra weight of the rim/lugs causes extra load, well then I guess I cant argue.... But come on... We are talking about 10-20 lbs. Putting slicks on the stock wheels will cause more stress.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 05:53 AM
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for those of u running spacers.. do the wheels stick out any? anyone running 17x11's and some 315/335s out back?
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:34 AM
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Since you are going from a 7-8" wheel up to an 11" wheel, you are adding 3-4" of extra width to your tire. That room needs to be made up somewhere. If you want to run a 315 tire, expect that the tire will fit just inside of the wheel well. They wont stick out any, but they will be close. That is...if you get the right size spacer... You have to do some math to find out what size spacer you need.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 07:59 AM
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well.. this is where im debating.. id like to go with an OEM rim with a spacer.. BUT i can/could get a repoduction made with the correct backspacing so i wouldnt have to do a spacer.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:19 AM
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Im sure there are companys that will make you what you are looking for... But you are talking about big $$$ to get a custom wheel made.
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