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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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Tubular A-Arms & front end rebuild kit (Spohn)

Thinking about picking these up for my turbo bird project. Any grips or complains or nothing but good things?
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 02:08 AM
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it's spohn...

all else is nothing in comparison. my cheaper pa chromoly versions have been working well though for the last few years.

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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 07:44 AM
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I have them. They lowered my front end alot. I e-mailed Steve about this. He said sometimes they do, for many they don't. He doesn't know why. Maybe my old stock springs?

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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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I'm not hating on Steve or anything (his products are great) but I dont think the A-Arms are worth the money unless the rest of the suspension has been re-done and you either want to run coilovers or you just want to replace everything with aftermarket. If there are still other parts of the suspension you need to work on (especially springs/dampeners,bushings) I'd do that first, more bang for the buck. The front end rebuild kit is a good idea if your steering components are worn. I personally would test the components first to see where the problem is, you might not need to replace everything. Have a friend in the car turning the steering while you're under it watching the components. You're looking for differences in movement between the steering linkage connections. So if the input side is moving but the output side isn't moving as much, theres the problem. Also, if you dont need the tie rod adjusters powdercoated, Coleman Racing has them for a really good price (around $22).
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 10:43 AM
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Car: 1991 Pontiac Firebird
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If those a arms lower the car more than I am not gonna get those. I can't make it lower then it is or I will scrape.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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Not everybody has had this problem. I think it was only a few of us. It could be my old springs. It's just what happend to me. I put rubber spring helpers to correct it for now. I'll replace the springs at a later date.
As far as cost, I needed ball joints and bushings. By the time I bought them and had them pressed in the cost wasn't all that much more. I could afford them. So what the he!!.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 11:12 AM
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Alright, I will try them out and see what happens. If they lower the car then I am sure Steve will refund me.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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I would'nt count on that. Call him first.
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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Alright, I will try them out and see what happens. If they lower the car then I am sure Steve will refund me.
Not in this life time
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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I e-mailed him and he told me they used to do that but don't anymore. So I should be in the clear. Now its on to BMR for the tublar k member.
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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Now its on to BMR for the tublar k member.
Better call BMR first. I think you need their arms with their K-member. And as far as the drop, I did spohns along with a PA k-member at the same time, and lost 3/4". Didn't know who's parts were responsible for it until now. I stuck the stock rear spring isolators on top of the front springs to get it back (the old metal/rubber kind, not the all rubber updated ones).
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 04:33 AM
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Did you notice any difference with the arms? are they worth it?
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 06:25 AM
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Better call BMR first. I think you need their arms with their K-member. And as far as the drop, I did spohns along with a PA k-member at the same time, and lost 3/4". Didn't know who's parts were responsible for it until now. I stuck the stock rear spring isolators on top of the front springs to get it back (the old metal/rubber kind, not the all rubber updated ones).
How long ago did you purchase those a arms from spohn? And how did you like this PA company? I never bought anything thru them before. I would think a tublar k member would give you more room and not less so I am guessing it was because of the a arms?
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 06:25 AM
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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I bought mine in january. I'm happy with the PA k-member, others have had mixed results. The spohn arms are nice beefy units, but it should be one of the last things done, or when changing to an aftermarket k-member. The k-member gives alot more room around the engine also. I didn't notice a difference, but I switched them both out at once. I noticed a major difference when I added an STB afterwards.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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So you used the PA k member with the spohn a arms? I just want to make sure the 2 work together since I heard that BMR's k member does not work with the spohn or any stock type units. I know spohn is gonna have their k members ready in december but I am kinda screwed for time and don't want to wait a month for a part.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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anyone know about any compatibility issues with spohn and pa racing?
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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anyone know about any compatibility issues with spohn and pa racing?
Yes, I need to know this too. I want to make sure my spohn a arms would work with a PA kmember.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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Mine worked fine together, although a little tight. See pic at the end of this thread:

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...ighlight=SPOHN
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 06:40 AM
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Originally posted by Lo-tec
Mine worked fine together, although a little tight. See pic at the end of this thread:

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...ighlight=SPOHN
Have you had any problems with the PA kmember? Where is their website?
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 07:21 AM
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I have had no problems with their k-member. Website:

http://www.paracing.net/gm_products1.htm
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 08:52 AM
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I have had no problems with their k-member. Website:

http://www.paracing.net/gm_products1.htm
Did you save any clearance under your car?
Also, what is this rack option all about?

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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Rack and pinion steering, its a whole different type of steering set up. Unless you plan on spending another 700-1200 bucks, you dont need it.
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 07:50 AM
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I think I am good. Thanks. I am ordering a PA k member today. I will let everyone know how it goes.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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A-arms lowered front...

Hey 89rs, my new a-arms lowered mine a bunch also...had to put 1" spacers on top of my springs and reinstall them that way. Your springs are not the problem though, I have Eibachs and I know they are not worn out. Steve told me the same thing, some cars get lower in the front but most do not.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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I cant wait to get my tax return.. Hrmm tubular a-arms with coil over kit. :drool:
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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Old Nov 8, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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Those Spohn a-arms look good..i think i found my next two purchases..K-member and A-arms.
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