Steering Stabilizer??
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Car: 90 Firebird Formula
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Steering Stabilizer??
I was just wondering if anybody made a steering stabilizer kit for f-body's. I dont think anything crazy like the dual shock setups on the 4x4's would be necessary, but a good single one would probably make driving alot smoother.
I thought about trying to fab something up for fun, but I would have to adapt one off of a truck or something. A regular shock wouldnt work, because the rebound would run you off the road. I would need dampening, but no rebound.
Also, how much harder to turn the wheel would it be? I have the quick-ratio steering already, so it is a b***h to try and steer while drinking to something. At least a damper would keep the car from wandering soo much all the time though, over every little bump.
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Oh yeah, I already read about the "ed quay" one, but that seems more for drag racing / highly modded cars. And needs welding.
I would want one to help out daily driving, on crap roads and grooved highways. I dont plan on doing wheelies any time soon!
I thought about trying to fab something up for fun, but I would have to adapt one off of a truck or something. A regular shock wouldnt work, because the rebound would run you off the road. I would need dampening, but no rebound.
Also, how much harder to turn the wheel would it be? I have the quick-ratio steering already, so it is a b***h to try and steer while drinking to something. At least a damper would keep the car from wandering soo much all the time though, over every little bump.
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Oh yeah, I already read about the "ed quay" one, but that seems more for drag racing / highly modded cars. And needs welding.
I would want one to help out daily driving, on crap roads and grooved highways. I dont plan on doing wheelies any time soon!
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Re: Steering Stabilizer??
Hey just looking for a little better feel for the road at higher speeds. Has anyone tried a stabilizer for this application yet?? Or does the power steering making this a useless attempt?
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Pondering On The Wandering
If it’s wandering over bumps, etc, you probably have worn steering and/or suspension parts which can happen in a short amount of time based on the type of roads you mentioned.
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Re: Pondering On The Wandering
could also be experiencing bumpsteer, or the effects of dead shocks and struts
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Re: Steering Stabilizer??
i wouldnt think a stabilizer like you are thinking of would work on a IFS car, thye are for solid axles. on a solid axle thye are helpful because the whole axle can shift back and forth within bushing tolerances and the steering also shifts back and forth. but you dont even need it on a solid axle if everyhting is "new car" tight
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Re: Steering Stabilizer??
Maybe so but I am going through all my steering and replacing to get it as good as new if not better. I had a couple 80s era Supras which are IFS with rack and pinion steering and those use a damper right there on the rack. Very solid feel with those at any speed. On the Camaro with tight steering new tires and lots of caster it feels a little too twitchy for my liking. Just hoping someone who has tried it might be able to offer some input.
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Re: Steering Stabilizer??
interesting. do you know where the stabilizer attaches on these supras? is it a damper from the tie rod to the chassis?
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Re: Steering Stabilizer??
You do not need a steering stabilize on these cars unless you are lifting the front whels and sitting them back down at an increased speed that wwill wobble the steering wheel...You pulling wheelies?
Ops, my bad, I read the bottom of your post where you say you do not plan on any wheelies soon.
But seriously...no, you do not use a stabilizer to correct poor alingment, bumpsteer, or worn componants....or any combination of the three.
Ops, my bad, I read the bottom of your post where you say you do not plan on any wheelies soon.
But seriously...no, you do not use a stabilizer to correct poor alingment, bumpsteer, or worn componants....or any combination of the three.
Re: Steering Stabilizer??
cheepest way to get some good road feel is to set the caster more positive, this wont wear your tires any faster and you will get better road feel, but not just at high speeds, it will be all the time
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Re: Steering Stabilizer??
You do not need a steering stabilize on these cars unless you are lifting the front whels and sitting them back down at an increased speed that wwill wobble the steering wheel...You pulling wheelies?
Ops, my bad, I read the bottom of your post where you say you do not plan on any wheelies soon.
But seriously...no, you do not use a stabilizer to correct poor alingment, bumpsteer, or worn componants....or any combination of the three.
Ops, my bad, I read the bottom of your post where you say you do not plan on any wheelies soon.
But seriously...no, you do not use a stabilizer to correct poor alingment, bumpsteer, or worn componants....or any combination of the three.
Better reread I pop wheelies all the time, just not with my car.
I have chrome moly swaybars with polyurethane bushings, new shocks, Eibach springs and all new wheel bearings, new Moog everything, new Redhead Steering Gear, new GM original steering shaft. Alignment for both sides is roughly 4.8 degrees caster, 0 degrees toe and camber. Steering is tight as it gets but it is still not what I am looking for. This car should not be so twitchy, I feel like I could sneeze and end up turning a 180 on the highway!
Maybe I need to look at the powersteering pump and possibly lower the pump output pressure to firm it up a little, think that might help?
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