Turn angle and lock-to-lock ratio
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Turn angle and lock-to-lock ratio
Hi,
How can i extend wheel turn angle?? i'm planing to drift with my fbody and i need to extend extend it as much as possible.
Also i need to lower the lock-to-lock ratio, how can i do that and which parts to choose??
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How can i extend wheel turn angle?? i'm planing to drift with my fbody and i need to extend extend it as much as possible.
Also i need to lower the lock-to-lock ratio, how can i do that and which parts to choose??
best regards
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Re: Turn angle and lock-to-lock ratio
You'll need to get a quick ratio steering box with 2.5 turns lock to lock. They called it "sports steering" back in the day.
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Re: Turn angle and lock-to-lock ratio
will be just marked 2.5 turns lock to lock or any other way ??
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Re: Turn angle and lock-to-lock ratio
can You give me any links to webpages showing those because it is hard for me to find exact products as english is not my native language
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Re: Turn angle and lock-to-lock ratio
I believe what hold the steering back is the stops on the a-arms, but I'm not positive about the steering box itself. I just know that I'm using a manual box from an s-10, and before I put it in the car it would take 7 turns lock to lock. Now in the car it only goes 4 turns lock to lock.
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Re: Turn angle and lock-to-lock ratio
The steering box has internal stops in it. You'll want to find a box with the code Z that's the quickest ratio out there.... you may also want to consider what rims the car came with. Since the 15" and 16" internal stops are different
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Re: Turn angle and lock-to-lock ratio
Here's one from Ebay, they show up pretty frequently there.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/89-Ir...spagenameZWD1V
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/89-Ir...spagenameZWD1V
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Re: Turn angle and lock-to-lock ratio
Try to get hold of the member "CrazyHawaiian". I think he's been into drifting for several years already.
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Re: Turn angle and lock-to-lock ratio
I kinda missed your threadd, did you ever find this one?
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...ing-angle.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...ing-angle.html
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Re: Turn angle and lock-to-lock ratio
actualy i did found that thread and managed to make what i needed to do 
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Re: Turn angle and lock-to-lock ratio
You could try a steering quickner in your shaft. You would have to modify it for this to work http://www.speedwaymotors.com/SMALL-...KNER,8280.html
Also the main thing thats going to give you more angle is modifying your tie rod mounts on the spindle. You want to bring the mount closer to the center steering pivot point on it. That way even with the stock rack you'll get more throw left to right. Like this...
http://www.mamsparts.com/
Scroll down about a page and you can see their modified spindles and the crazy steering angle.
Also the main thing thats going to give you more angle is modifying your tie rod mounts on the spindle. You want to bring the mount closer to the center steering pivot point on it. That way even with the stock rack you'll get more throw left to right. Like this...
http://www.mamsparts.com/
Scroll down about a page and you can see their modified spindles and the crazy steering angle.
Last edited by BMR Sales; Feb 12, 2009 at 08:39 AM.
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Re: Turn angle and lock-to-lock ratio
digging form the grave, BMR as im about to start modifiy the spindles, from what you said i need to shorten the arm of the tire rod mount so do like shown on picture ??

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