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Dec 23, 2009 | 03:38 AM

Chezoom

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From: plano texas

Car: 91 RS Vert, 87 SC T-Top

Engine: LO3, LG4

Transmission: 700r4's

Axle/Gears: 2.73, not sure yet

wounder bar

I bought one off here awhile back and its now time to install but, all i got is the bar itself. is there anykind of brackets i need and does someone have an installed pic i can see?

Dec 23, 2009 | 04:04 AM

ellocojorge

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Car: 1991 camaro rs

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Re: wounder bar

no brackets needed. if u dont have some one to help you be sure to use a jack to support the weight of the front sway? bar? its quite heavy and hurts lol. install is pretty simple. unbolt 4 bolts put wonder bar in between frame and sway bar brakets, bolts every thing back up.

Dec 23, 2009 | 06:41 AM

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Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold

Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)

Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)

Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's

Re: wounder bar

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Originally Posted by Chezoom

is there anykind of brackets i need and does someone have an installed pic i can see?

http://www.top-downsolutions.com/Doc...structions.pdf

JamesC

Dec 23, 2009 | 08:44 AM

Chezoom

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Car: 91 RS Vert, 87 SC T-Top

Engine: LO3, LG4

Transmission: 700r4's

Axle/Gears: 2.73, not sure yet

Re: wounder bar

thanks guys

Dec 24, 2009 | 02:38 AM

lonsal

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From: Hacienda Heights, CA

Car: 90 RS 'Vert, 88 IROC-Z, 88 Firebird

Engine: 305 ci tbi, 305 ci tpi, 350 ci tpi

Transmission: WC-T5, WC-T5, 700R4

Axle/Gears: 3.45, 3.27, 3.27

Re: wounder bar

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Originally Posted by JamesC

http://www.top-downsolutions.com/Doc...structions.pdf

JamesC

He can follow my instructions, but if it isn't a TDS steering brace it won't have the extra pair of bolt holes that make installation easier.

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Dec 24, 2009 | 03:40 AM

Chezoom

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Car: 91 RS Vert, 87 SC T-Top

Engine: LO3, LG4

Transmission: 700r4's

Axle/Gears: 2.73, not sure yet

Re: wounder bar

well this was easier than i thought! had a friend help me. took 25 min tops.Man what an improvement!!!!! highly recomend it!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dec 25, 2009 | 08:59 AM

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Car: 1987 Black IROC-Z (SOLD)

Re: wounder bar

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Originally Posted by Chezoom

thanks guys

Put a bandaid on that wounded bar...or are you talking German with "wounderbar"

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Dec 28, 2009 | 11:43 PM

racing geek

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Car: 1987 IROC-Z

Engine: 383 with Edelbrock ProFlow EFI

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Re: wounder bar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chezoom

well this was easier than i thought! had a friend help me. took 25 min tops.Man what an improvement!!!!! highly recomend it!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dec 30, 2009 | 02:22 AM

Chezoom

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From: plano texas

Car: 91 RS Vert, 87 SC T-Top

Engine: LO3, LG4

Transmission: 700r4's

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Re: wounder bar

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say what?

Jan 6, 2010 | 10:23 PM

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Re: wounder bar

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Originally Posted by Chezoom

say what?

I wasn't aware there was any "improvement" you could really feel with the wonder bar.... its main purpose is to stiffen the crack prone steering box area of the frame.

Jan 7, 2010 | 06:02 AM

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DJP87Z28

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Re: wounder bar

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Originally Posted by livewire

I wasn't aware there was any "improvement" you could really feel with the wonder bar.... its main purpose is to stiffen the crack prone steering box area of the frame.

"improvements"

are a must because you do not want to WONDER why you spent the money.

Jan 7, 2010 | 06:15 AM

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From: Columbus Ohio

Car: 91 Z28,64ImpalaSS4094spd,67 Galaxy

Engine: Dart 415Profiler hd,cmprlrs,Hlly750

Transmission: Built 700R4, 3200 stall

Axle/Gears: 3:89 Moser 9"

Re: wounder bar

Our front ends have alot of flex, the Wonder definitely makes the front end more rigid and the difference can be felt. I can not imagine driving my car w/o one!

Jan 7, 2010 | 06:27 AM

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JamesC

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Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold

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Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's

Re: wounder bar

If you feel an improvement, the area that the steering box brace BandAids, is probably already torn/weakened. At any rate, the Wonderbar question and its significance is an old one. A lot of info about the brace and its effect can be found in the following link:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...questions.html

JamesC

Jan 7, 2010 | 06:35 AM

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From: Columbus Ohio

Car: 91 Z28,64ImpalaSS4094spd,67 Galaxy

Engine: Dart 415Profiler hd,cmprlrs,Hlly750

Transmission: Built 700R4, 3200 stall

Axle/Gears: 3:89 Moser 9"

Re: wounder bar

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Originally Posted by JamesC

I have checked my frame again and again in the steering box area, it is solid as can be, it's an Arizona car and very clean underneath. After driving the car w/o the wonderbar and then w/it, I noticed an improvement, especially in hard cornering situations.
My 87 IROC had one and after driving the 91, I felt the 87 handled better, so I took the wonder bar off of the (smashed) 87 and put it on the 91. I still feel the best improvement to a third gen is SFC's...