Goodyears are not getting any cheaper, and my wells are carving them like turkies. What is the easiest/cheapest and then best way to get the car lifted about 3" higher than stock?

maybe your springs are just dead. Try new shocks and springs, and if you still more lift get a few coil spring stabilizers from jc whitney. these go on top/inbetween coils and don't all ow the spring to compress as much.

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You can also put spring spacers above the springs.

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I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct!

Hey LottaBallsCamaro nice flag you damn racist

I don't see racism in the flag. so they are from the south and they like the flag. just because someone flies a confederate flag doesn NOT make them a racist. BTW, there are no flames aloud on this board. I'm not trying to be a jerk, just please don't prejudice, it's not cool.

Geeeeez always gotta be one in the crowd.

Spacers and everything sound great, but it seems like I've heard people biat about them making noise around corners. I do think I need to overall replace my springs, but that can't solve the problem, just make it a little less terrible. What are the difference between firebird, transam and formula springs? Is it height, or just different loads? Mine is a firebird with a zz4 dropped in, so I get a lot of *** drop when I nail it. By the way, the confederate flag stands for a lot more than slavery. A lot of people think that the civil war happened strictly because of the emancipation proclamation act Lincoln enacted, but in all reality, they were fighting for state rights over fedral decisions, and slavery was just one of the more controversial issues, so it got the bad press for the civil war. Some of the issues they were actually concerned with were on a much more individual level, so we were actually the "United States of America" instead of "America." It was actually to their credit that they pushed to be involved with local and state governments, instead of being the lazy, non voters we've become. This of course is null and void for the 4WD, gunrack toters. Thanks again for any help!

I use air shocks in the rear (with larger rear tires), those might be your ticket to "lift".

I've since thought about "raising" the spring perches on the rear axle. It seems to me that it could be done by using two steel tubes and a flat plate. The first (wider) steel tube would fit over the spring perch on the axle, like a spring. Then the flat plate would be welded on top of the tube, 3 inches from the bottom. Then, the second, thinner tube would be welded on top of the flat plate, but this tube would only be an inch tall. The spring would then fit around the smaller tube- just like it did on the axle. I'm sure a weldor could knock one of those off in no time, especially if you brought him the steel & flat plate, already measured. I don't think this piece would even need to be welded to the axle, since it kind of acts like a taller spring... but maybe it should?

Like:

..._|_.....(thin tube, spring goes on top here)
...|||.....
...|||.....(thick tube, this fits over axle)

And yeah, the confederate flag does stand for different issues than slavery. Problem is, 95% of the people don't know what it really stands for. They automatically think that it stands for slavery. I say that's a problem because that shared opinion (though incorrect) means that the flag has come to stood for slavery. That's why it offends people, and we should all be mindful of that.

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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l)

[This message has been edited by TomP (edited October 19, 2001).]

I currently have air shocks in the back, and after reading some of the older posts, I'm a little nervous about tearing the sheetmetal out up the upper bracket area. Also, I can't get the damn things to stop leaking... I have to fill them every morning, and I've replaced everything but the shocks themselves. I've heard of people having luck with them, but I've also heard of people winning the lottery. Never met either one.

Also...I might have to crawl under my car with your drawing in hand...right now it looks like a roman column....nothing else is clicking. If I understand you right, you are suggesting that I build a platform that fits inside the axle pad the same way the spring does, and then at the top it holds the spring the same way the axle pad does. That immediately makes me think of ways I can just block my current axle pad up X # of inches. Am I understanding you correctly?

Take a look at the way mine sits. I'm running 275 60's in the rear and have no problems with rubbing. All I did was replace the rear springs and put on Competition Engineering 3 way adjustable drag shocks.

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it is not racism, and i am from the north. I see nothing wrong with it.

Sorry for the late reply- Yep, that was my idea. I'm not sure if that platform should be anchored in some way to the axle or not. I think it'd just act like a taller spring, but maybe it would move around if you hit a bump?

As for the air shocks leaking, mine leak a bit too. My original pair never leaked. Do you know where the leak's from? Usually it comes from the air feed lines. Make sure your little rubber o-rings are clean inside the shock's air fitting and the fitting for the valve.

Also, my current pair wouldn't hold air at all when I put 'em in. Turned out the valve stems (I got the dual "adjust each side" air line kit instead of the "t-fitting) were loose as hell. Tightening them up didn't solve it, but I replaced the valve stems, and even tho they still leak, it's very minimal.


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-Tom P (Hot rodded 1986 Firebird 2.8l)