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Old Dec 24, 2012 | 12:30 PM
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What end links??

I'm replacing my entire front end and need to get some sway bar end links. What end links do you suggest? I'd prefer a poly setup in black but only see red and blue in poly, also see white nylon.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/me...model/firebird

http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/pr...uspension.html

http://www.spohn.net/shop/1993-1997-...-Sway-Bar.html

http://www.top-downsolutions.com/cha...e-End-Link-Kit
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Old Dec 24, 2012 | 12:45 PM
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Re: What end links??

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ens-9-8118g/overview/

Both ends of the car
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Old Dec 24, 2012 | 12:55 PM
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Re: What end links??

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Old Dec 24, 2012 | 01:02 PM
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Re: What end links??

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thanks, I see they are universal and black..... "Both ends of the car" meaning same end links will fit front and rear sway bars??

also, I see the sleeve on the end link you posted is 2.875" in length. I just measured the sleeve on the old ones I just took off, 2.25".. Is the difference in sleeve length going to be an issue??

Car is lowered 1" not sure if that even matters.

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Old Dec 24, 2012 | 09:42 PM
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Re: What end links??

just a bump for the above questions.
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Old Dec 25, 2012 | 10:53 AM
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Re: What end links??

Go to Summit. Go to the "Chassis & Suspension" section. Select "Sway Bar End Links" as the part type. Select "Energy Suspension" as the brand. You'll get, among other things, a list of all the lengths they offer. Pick the one you want.

You can do this. It's just not that hard, to the point where we out here have to do it all for you.

Yes the 2-7/8" ones will work perfectly fine, if memory serves that's what I have in my car but I could be wrong, as will a couple of other lengths right close to there in the 2.xxx" neighborhood. Exact length is not critical at all. You just want to get the ends of the bars, i.e. the "arms" where they connect to the links, to be as close to horizontal as practical, which "centers" them in their range, so to speak.

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Old Dec 25, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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Re: What end links??

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Go to Summit. Go to the "Chassis & Suspension" section. Select "Sway Bar End Links" as the part type. Select "Energy Suspension" as the brand. You'll get, among other things, a list of all the lengths they offer. Pick the one you want.

You can do this. It's just not that hard, to the point where we out here have to do it all for you.

Yes the 2-7/8" ones will work perfectly fine, if memory serves that's what I have in my car but I could be wrong, as will a couple of other lengths right close to there in the 2.xxx" neighborhood. Exact length is not critical at all. You just want to get the ends of the bars, i.e. the "arms" where they connect to the links, to be as close to horizontal as practical, which "centers" them in their range, so to speak.
Thanks for the step by step direction on the Summit site, I have know idea how I ordered parts there before your help...kidding
My issue was just to get the correct sleeve length being the car is lowered 1". I just measures the front and rear links again and both sleeves were approx 2.25". I know front and rear sway bars take same links, anyway I'm going to go with these ones being they are closest I could find to whats coming off the car 2.25".
The ES polys are 2.375"
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ens-9-8125g/overview/

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Old Dec 25, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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Re: What end links??

Should do the trick.

No need to "match" what's there now, unless it's somehow "perfect" (HIGHLY unlikely). Instead get the length your car wants.

Look at how your bars sit now; if the links are holding them with the ends up higher than the bushings, get shorter ones. If the link ends are lower than the bushings, get longer ones.
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Old Dec 25, 2012 | 01:30 PM
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Re: What end links??

Great info on end links,I just unwrapped a UMI wonderbar from the wife and need to get links and bushings now to go with it.
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Old Dec 25, 2012 | 03:33 PM
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Re: What end links??

Originally Posted by sofakingdom
Should do the trick.

No need to "match" what's there now, unless it's somehow "perfect" (HIGHLY unlikely). Instead get the length your car wants.

Look at how your bars sit now; if the links are holding them with the ends up higher than the bushings, get shorter ones. If the link ends are lower than the bushings, get longer ones.
I really cant use my sway bar as a reference now. I have the entire front end out of the car and front ends on jack stands. I just ordered Spohn steering rebuild kit,UMI A arms, Founders CC plates,TDS wonder bar,KYB struts, modified spindles and LS1 brakes. Being I can't see how the sway bar lays out now with it all apart I was thinking being it has 1" Hotchkis lowering springs I'd need shorter end links. My thinking is approx 1" shorter links then the 2.25" links being the springs are 1" shorter. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/en...g/media/images
Maybe I'm over thinking this I am pretty bored today.
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Old Dec 25, 2012 | 04:26 PM
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Re: What end links??

In that case, might be better to just wait... only takes a coupla minutes to change em out, so leave what you've got for the time being, and choose the best fit after the car is put together. Don't worry, they're not going to get discontinued or anything, they'll be there waiting for you when you're ready.
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Old Dec 26, 2012 | 11:32 AM
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Re: What end links??

I believe that the stock end link spacer is 2.125" tall. You should shorten the end link about .25" for every 1" you lower the car in order to keep the sway bar parallel. If not you'll end up with a preload on the sway bar.
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Old Mar 16, 2013 | 02:49 PM
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Re: What end links??

TPI,
If you haven't finished the job yet, I just finished an install of UMI A-arms. With the stock WS6 springs, and sway bar, a 1" sleeve length end link was required to get it parallel, ENS-9-8122R or ENS-9-8122G. That seems to be the shortest there is.

I also measured the presumably stock end links at 2.25" sleeve length.
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