Hey everyone, I really want to lower my Camaro and I’m not sure whether or not to cut the springs or remove them completely. I know removing them completely may not be the best idea but I talked with someone else who’s done it and they’ve had no issues. I would buy bags but I don’t have the money for that and I like the idea of getting it realllly low for free-99. If anyone runs no springs or has cut springs please give me some feedback, thanks : )

 

Definitely do NOT remove the springs. I have drove one with the rears removed and it wasnt a pleasant experience.

You can cut the springs most cut a half coil at a time till they get what they are looking for. Springs are cheap compared to the koni shocks you will need to install when you lower these cars.

 

Completely remove the car's springs as in, no suspension on the car at all?

 

Yeh, just the shocks. I think I'm gonna definitely upgrade to koni since its gonna be harder on the car. The dude I've talked to who did it (eighty7_camaro on instagram) said he's had no issues so far with his, and he has a 305 while I have a v6. I understand it's gonna drive way differently with no shocks but thats kinda the fun of having a really low car lol.

Heres a pic of his:

 

SMH...

 

OR, you can do it right and get some lowering springs, weight jacks, coil overs, etc. Just because someone does something to their car, doesn't mean its at all correct or proper. The guy you follow on insta knows nothing about suspensions, their geometry, and so on. I recommend you unfollow that man asap.

 

Good luck with your modification plans.

 

springs are there for a reason. if GM could've saved a buck by not installing springs in these cars, then we wouldn't have them. i image you'd destroy your shocks and struts if you removed the springs.
like t/aWS61985 said, just lower the car the right way. if you don't have time or money to do it right the first time, when will you have time / money to do it a second time.

 

If you want to do it right, the way the magazine quality stance builds do- buy the highest rate springs from Landrum (or another spring supplier) you can find that will fit in the free length that you need, install progressive bump stops, and use good dampers. Ground Control builds custom strut bodies for our cars that use cartridges, they can probably help you find something with extremely aggressive valving.

Extremely stiff suspensions can ride and handle okay if the shocks and struts are valved to match. Slamming onto the bump stops is what kills ride quality and makes for terrible handling, riding on them is going to annihilate your dampers, make for dangerous handling, and ride like a jackhammer.

 

Absolutely a horrible idea and a threat to all that are around this car, do not permanently remove your coil springs.

 

 

See, the problem is he's an idiot. And idiots don't have discernment. And you will learn over time that advice from idiots without discernment is on par with asking a dog or a cat or a goat.

 

My brother, ur gonna kill thy self if you continue down this path.
you will legit die if you don't run any springs.
I'm dumbfounded that I have to actually make this comment at all.

if you want a slammed 3rd gen, just cut springs or install weight jacks.
& Use dampers with shorter piston lenghts.
And live with the garbage ride quality, compromised handling, acceleration, and horrid bump steer.

 

I can haz discernermant?


I mean. I'm a cat. I knock stuff off from high places, chase anything that moves, scratch stuff up for no reason and rub up against things that smell good and **** all over anything I like or don't like... doesn't matter....

 

Running a car on NO springs at all? Metal Fatigue will destroy the car. The road will literally hammer it OUT of shape till something cracks so bad it breaks in half. Hit a bad enough bump and I bet the windshield will crack from the twisting motion the body makes.

Your regular old pedal bike doesn't usually have suspension, because the Air filed tires provide enough compliance that you don't need it the regular pedal bike speeds on pavement. But hit rougher roads and you know what people do? They get their butt off the seat and stand on the pedals and use their legs and arms to absorb the bumps. But that doesn't mean suspension wouldn't improve those bikes.

Further, no springs at all means that any bump in the road will completely throw the car out of whack. Talk about snap-anything-steer. Hit a bump, front end will skip, same bump hits the rear and suddenly the car jumps sideways and you end up nose first into a wall, field, or crowd of people.

If you really must do the cheap of the cheap, learn how to cut the springs properly, yes there is a PROPER way to cut them, its linked in the Global west video above.

Honestly, lowering springs are CHEAP in comparison to a good set of shocks.

 

This is literally the dumbest thing ive read today!! WTF who the heck removes springs and thinks its a good idea!! This eighty7_camaro guy should not even own a car since he has put everyone around it in danger!!

 

Only today?

 

Everybody pitch in $5 and lets get this guy some $40 crash prevention springs

 

OMG! I've never even heard anyone propose this before. This is the worst idea in the history of ideas. Don't do it. Don't ever listen to this person on any subject again.

 

Looks like his seat is maybe behind the roll bar too (if that's even a real roll bar). Genius on display.

 

You guys - you obviously didn't see the pictures of the guy's car without the springs. We should all be clamoring to learn from this marvel of automotive engineering and restoration.

Seriously, who looks at that wreck and thinks "this guy knows what he is talking about."

The guy running a car without springs = idiot.
Someone following his advice = _____.

 

When one drives with no springs this particular feature becomes the driver delete mod.

 

Posted a day ago. Can't make this up. Someone do a welfare check on the OP, no activity in almost a week

 

Morbid curiosity caused me to cruise that instagram - I gathered that he isn't taking the springless suspension very seriously. Maybe using it as an attention getter?

 

You can't make this sh*it up ha ha.
this is some next level comedy.
keeping our generation of Camaros classy.
Never change 3rd gen owners.