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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 01:17 PM
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does ANYONE make good heads for the 92 ??

ok i called edelbrock, they said they didnt have ANY type of heads or a cam for the 92 rs, wtf, ...does anyone make them?? if so who?


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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 01:21 PM
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World Products S/R 305 Torquers. Direct bolt on replacements.
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 01:25 PM
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they got a web site??????????
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 01:36 PM
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They sell them at jegs. check there website www.jegs.com i think
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 01:49 PM
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 01:51 PM
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ok i called jegs, they said they only heads that would work were the world products S/R Torquer 305 , is this true or are there any other ones???
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 02:49 PM
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you can run any head you want on a 305. the problem is that most companies do not test their products on 305's. i used edelbrock heads on my car adn i was very happy with them. teh only heads i know you are liekly to run into trouble with are teh trick flows.
the world products torquers are a great head for the price. teh casting is very good adn they have a 58cc combustion chamber just liek stock so your compression will stay the same.

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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 03:24 PM
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gotta watch out for clearance issues...i dont thing u can run 2.02/1.6 on the 305s...1.94/1.5 i think thats all u can run...S/Rs are good for the 305...since they are made for the 305....now...if u had a 350 thats a different story....

Personally i like the Sportsman IIs...but..they are 2.02/1.6s

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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 05:30 PM
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i ran the 2.02/1.60's in my car. it is fine. nothing hits anywhere.
what you can get if you go with too much lift is an interferance to teh air flow aroudn teh valve called shrouding. that is where there is nto enough space aroudn teh vavle for he air to eb drawn past it properly. it creates turbulance adn low air velocities.
with a fairly mild cam liek a LT1 or LT4 the larger valves will work very nicely.

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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 06:29 PM
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everyone agree on the torquers? cool deal.....do i have to modify anything else with that or just bolt em right on and go...also, what would be a good cam to go with that??? i plan on buying the cam and the heads at the same time so tell me what yall think:hail: :hail:
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 07:02 PM
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The LT1 cam/SR Torquers is a proven combo, add the Edelbrock TBI intake and you got yourself a pretty stout ride. I took the road less traveled though
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 07:16 PM
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factory lt1 cam??? if not what brand?????
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 07:24 PM
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how about the lt4 hot cam and some 1.6 rockers to go with that?
what do you think about that combo?
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 07:30 PM
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lol yall theorize and tell me the conclusion ..keep in mind i want to keep it *fairly* simple....im not exactly an experianced mechanic with years of training and a whole garage of tools backing it heheh
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 08:16 PM
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what do you consider simple?
a cam, head, and intake combo that will be easy to tune and not cost very much is a factory LT1 cam, edelbrock performer tbi intake, and world products torquer 305 heads.
as far as how easy it is to do, the mechanical stuff is straight forward enough, just takes time. teh hard part is afterward when it is tiem to tune everything.
the best bet there is to get a hold of a laptop and a copy of win aldl. that way you can get a data log going of the car and see what adjsutments it wants/needs. it can also be used as the basis for a true custom chip, which you will need to get teh most out fo yoru new combo. check out the tech articles about getting started in burnign chips to see how.

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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 08:27 PM
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yeah i figured the tuning part was gonna be difficult....can i just slap a custom prom in it, and tell them everything ive done and they burn it, and it be done with?? or do i have to do it myself ??
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 08:04 PM
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yeah i figured the tuning part was gonna be difficult....can i just slap a custom prom in it, and tell them everything ive done and they burn it, and it be done with?? or do i have to do it myself ??
you can call up the manufacturers and many of them will be happy to lighten your wallet for a conservative tune up at a high price. your best bet is to beg, borrow, or steal a laptop and run win aldl on it to get a data log started. then either get the equipment to burn proms yourself or talk to the guys who you can see burnign proms about helping you out.
teh best place to start seems to be with a cop car chip or somethign similar. what you can get from telling people what is in the engien is only a starting point. if you want all teh power, you need to do all teh work. that menas burn then data log then burn again and so on.

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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 12:37 PM
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eh...what do i need t program my own prog, ..a programmable chip/ecm or what
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 01:35 PM
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eh...what do i need t program my own prog, ..a programmable chip/ecm or what
https://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/tech/promintro.shtml

This is about the cheapest chip burner available: http://www.ustr.net/epromer5/index.shtml

Then you can use WINBIN or TUNERCAT to edit your chip and the burn it to a new prom and begin testing away.
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 04:28 PM
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i seriously have no idea how to do that, . where do i get a programmable prom?? or can i use the one i have now? if i do somthing wrong can i re-write the prom or do i have to buy a new one? sorry for all the questions, but i just wanna know what to do before i mess somthing up.....should i get the prom and prom writter *first* then get the heads and cam and intake?
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 04:59 PM
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now i see why people switch to a carb and toss the damn ecm....bleh
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 05:08 PM
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now i see why people switch to a carb and toss the damn ecm....bleh
Yes, but once you have climbed the curve you will never go back. I hate carbs. I really do. Flower pots I call 'em. And I grew up with carbs and found that they can work, OK, sometimes, never always, need jet changes with climate changes, chokes that wouldn't work through the entire warm up cycle, accel pumps that didn't, floats that wouldn't float, and then the fumes. . . debris that held open the needles and clogged jets. Dang, what was it that I did like about carbs?

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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 06:34 PM
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ah flashback to my 600 ....good call, ...guss its time to start learning.....and shelling out 250 bucks for a scanner , a programmer, and a re-writeable prom...then 200 more for software :\
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 06:49 PM
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slowmaro, you don';t need a ton of stuff to start burnign chips anymore. the win aldl software is free, almost any old laptop will do the trick, and you can make the patch cable you need from radio shack parts for around $7. the only thing that costs is the burner itself adn i don't even think they are very expensive.
there are also a ton of resources to give you a basis to start your own custom programming.
just like RBob i grew up playin with carbs, and i actually got well into college before i saw the real benefits on fuel injection. when you use mechanical methods, you get mechanical results, when you use an ecm you have teh unlimited tunability of digital for both fuel and spark.


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