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Old 02-24-2004, 09:35 PM
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High mileage TBI's post up

262,5xx miles and counting...

Orginal owner, engine & transmission not sure which of the three will wear out first...
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190,000 and still as strong as the day I got it. All stock except for ult tbi mods, afpr and a slightly moded stock air cleaner asy.

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comforting to see thoes numbers.

ive owned this car for a year and 2 weeks as of now.


when i bought it, it had 80k on it.. it now has 125k+

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comforting to see thoes numbers.

ive owned this car for a year and 2 weeks as of now.


when i bought it, it had 80k on it.. it now has 125k+

(i like to drive )
40K in one year!!! WOW I geuss you do like to drive. Commute to work I take it?
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40K in one year!!! WOW I geuss you do like to drive. Commute to work I take it?

not really.

i tend to drive 3 or so hours everynight for fun.. or other various things... and i take roadtrips across teh US as often as i can.


its at the point now where people are "only" 6 hours away, and i dont even really think about it. lol.


know whats really scary? the last 2 months of the year, i moved and bearly drove at all... so its more like 40k in 10 months.
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not really.

i tend to drive 3 or so hours everynight for fun.. or other various things... and i take roadtrips across teh US as often as i can.


its at the point now where people are "only" 6 hours away, and i dont even really think about it. lol.


know whats really scary? the last 2 months of the year, i moved and bearly drove at all... so its more like 40k in 10 months.
Thats insane! Wow and man and some open road can go a long way I guess. My dads work truck that sees 500 miles a day can barely make those kind of numbers. His is a '98 with 121K. You should come to visit in dayton sometime to one of our f-body gatherings. It should only be a couple hours there and back
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Originally posted by ShiftyCapone
Thats insane! Wow and man and some open road can go a long way I guess. My dads work truck that sees 500 miles a day can barely make those kind of numbers. His is a '98 with 121K. You should come to visit in dayton sometime to one of our f-body gatherings. It should only be a couple hours there and back
actually, i thought about driving upto ohio.... i might later this year.

right now i want to finish my current projects, then im going back to dallas... and from there my next "big" roadtrip will be to vegas for the nationwide 3rdgen.org gathering (you should come).

www.3GOinVegas.com more info in the lounge at www.3rdgen.org
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Originally posted by MrDude_1
and from there my next "big" roadtrip will be to vegas for the nationwide 3rdgen.org gathering (you should come).

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That woul equal the total amount of miles I have put on my car in 3.5 years. HAHA. I have put more miles on my LT1 in less than a year than I did on my 3rd gen in almost 4.
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Man that's a lot of driving! I bought mine almost 2 years ago with 57k on it and its at 63k now.
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mine has 133k on it, would have more, but the clutch went out at christmas, and haven't gotten around to replacing it yet.
it even knocked down 29mpg on the third gen nats trip to maryland last year. still waiting to take it to fla like i did for vacation in 1998 w/ my white rs (it had 118k when i got rid of it- the engine was strong but too many other things broke so i had to sell it)

as long as my 305 lasts through another clutch i'll be happy
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My stepmom's GMC full sized truck with 350TBI has 190,000+ and still can snap your neck when you plant the throttle, and oh, those duals sound soooooooooooo good. TBI :rockon:
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thats the key, with the power output of these cars, it is hard to punish anything other than you pride and probably a big part of the longevity.
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its about 230,000 now with a slight puff at start up. Still manages around 28mpg on the highway, 18-19 city.
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288,xxx miles, LO3.

On its third owner. I abuse that car like no other, more than its previous two owners, who tore the car up. It's definatly a fun car, but see's the side of the road, and the ditch a lot (doesn't handle like it should, HAHA).

Stock, except for a few hoses, simple tune-up stuff, and a modifed air cleaner assy. Stock tranny (700r4), but the converter is about to blow up (nothing is holding the tranny still, if i remember right (broken mounts), so shes torquing around when I floor it, which is damaging the converter...and the rear-main seal...)

yea, I abuse my car...but one of these days ill end up blowing up the tranny, and getting a new one..then blowing up the engine, and finally getting around to my 406 project...
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185,xxx and is a daily driver averaging about 2200, miles a month or so. Does need to have the top end reddone for it smokes on start up. Gonna get started on that in the next week or two.
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198xxx daily driver.

Replaced the timing chain in Oct and put in a new cam and intake at the same time.Bottom end aint digging the changes to much (going through oil like a sob!).Within the next 3-4 month Im switching to a vortech 350

Trans is fine.Rears fine.
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The number of high mileage TBI still going strong never ceases amaze me. BTW 265,xxx miles and counting
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L03 and L05 are really good engines for durability. I am pretty low though 138k on L03 with headers, exhaust, and open element. Only had to replace the rear-end. 132k on L05, with its only engine part being a water pump.
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feels weird to say it, but i guess i have low mileage on mine at 124,000. only problem i've had is it leaked coolant in the winter, but doesn't at all now and i didn't do anything. confuses the heck out of me
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Mine must be pretty low then too. 137,xxx with some smoke at startup and after idling for a little bit. Other than that, the car is in great shape and runs pretty strong. It has been in my family its whole life
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My 89 RS reads 59,XXX, I am assumiong it is 159,XXX but you never know since the motor is super tight no signs of oil leaks anywhere!!!( not even from the balancer seal or the oil pan, or the intake. Even my low milage Vortec motor has some oil on it,LOL.
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wow, I feel like I have super low miles now with about 104,000, lol
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JUST turned 122,000 miles last night. Motor seems to run even stronger than when it rolled off the lot. Lots of parts have been replaced, but the engine has NEVER been touched. I'm the third owner and I by far drive it harder then the other 2 did. She gets 20mpg in the city and has hit 30.9 on the highway (that trip 3/4 of the tank was travel, the last 1/4 was used at the dragstrip!!!) I bought her on July 7th, 2002 with 95,600 miles, so I've put 26,400 miles on her in almost 2 years...

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I just clicked over 200,000 the other day. I bought her with 97,000 about 4 or 5 years ago. New motor went in at 197,000 (350ci). She was real rough when I first got her and although I've still got a long way to go it's 200% better than when I got it.
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Originally posted by GASGZLR
My 89 RS reads 59,XXX, I am assumiong it is 159,XXX
Look at the title.

As for me, 163k miles. Very slight oil leak, nothing to worry about at the moment, I should do valve seals but they aren't really bad either and I have absolutely no money to spend after ordering the door sag repair kit from TDS and replacing my alternator the other day. But it runs really well! Idles sooo smooth. I think it idles nicer than my dad's 96 Grand Am GT (3.1L V6)
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im not too bad then

my 89 bird has 201,456 on it. had the original clutch until 190k. nothing has been changed except custom side exhaust and soon to have open element. Im so happy that people are coming up on 300k because ill be off to college next year and id like her to stay running till im out.
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Looks like running these motors is the best maintenence. I have a whoppin 34,000 on my car and my valve seals are shot from sitting so much. The bottom end and heads are stock, but nothing else.
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oil question?

i placed this post in the tech/general section but seeing how this is all high mileage TBI's ill prolly get a better response. I so have 200k+ on my motor. whats the best high mileage oil? using valvoline high mileage now. would like to find some sore of synthetic high mileage oil. do u need a special filter for synthetic? thanx to all the high mileage guys and keep on piling up the odometer!
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My Camaro had 226,000 when I pulled the orginal motor. It still ran fine, other than a little oile use.

Now my truck, on the other hand, is a '94 C2500 with a 350 TBI. Original motor, tranny, rear and to our knowledge, clutch. I'll just let the picture do the talking. this was taken today...
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Re: oil question?

Originally posted by speedy21cvb
i placed this post in the tech/general section but seeing how this is all high mileage TBI's ill prolly get a better response. I so have 200k+ on my motor. whats the best high mileage oil? using valvoline high mileage now. would like to find some sore of synthetic high mileage oil. do u need a special filter for synthetic? thanx to all the high mileage guys and keep on piling up the odometer!
The bottom ends of our cars aren't really any different than any other 3rd gen bottom end. You can use synthetic oil with a regular filter and you can also mix it with regular oil. The oil you have chosen will be fine. Another popular choice is Mobil one tri synthetic. Thats the only oil I will use.

I only answered this to be helpful. Lets focus on the thread and not turn this into an oil debate.
Old 04-08-2004, 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by PhilM
My Camaro had 226,000 when I pulled the orginal motor. It still ran fine, other than a little oile use.

Now my truck, on the other hand, is a '94 C2500 with a 350 TBI. Original motor, tranny, rear and to our knowledge, clutch. I'll just let the picture do the talking. this was taken today...




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My camaro had 150 some thousand miles on it when I rebuilt the engine. I would still be fine today just without any piston rings, black smoke every second it was running. Smogged up the whole highway when I floored it. And just last week the tranny went out at 160K. My dad says it went out cause I race it twice a month, if that, not because it had 160 K on it.

A well takin care of thirgen will last a very long time on all original parts but time takes its toll eventually.
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