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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 10:02 PM
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Good deal on Ebay?

Sorry if this has been posted already, i didnt see it anywhere, but i came across this on ebay and wondered if it would be worth it. What do you guys think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=36474
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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There is nothing special about that intake but the TBI unit would be about all you want. The regulator is also nothing special. When it comes down to it, $300 will buy you a holley 670 or 454 unit. You cannot really see what style IAC that unit has either. I would save your money.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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Shifty,

Is that just the stock intake?
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by azvolfan
Shifty,

Is that just the stock intake?
I am pretty sure it is just a cleaned up truck intake that has had the bores enlarged to 2".

EDIT: $300 does get you a lot for this deal but what you get is not really worth it performance wise. Now if you needed the top end of a TBI set-up this would be fairly decent.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by ShiftyCapone
There is nothing special about that intake but the TBI unit would be about all you want. The regulator is also nothing special. When it comes down to it, $300 will buy you a holley 670 or 454 unit. You cannot really see what style IAC that unit has either. I would save your money.
i've spoken to this guy several times, and found him to be pretty knowledgable and helpful. he bores the stock, small block tbi units out to 2", does the ultimate tbi mods, and will set them up with the proper linkages, iac, etc. for your application at no extra charge. i left my conversations with him pretty impressed, and plan to buy one of his 2" tbi units when i'm at that stage of my project. he doesn't have any currently up for auction, but i'm pretty sure they sold for around 199.00, much less than a holley 670. also, he'll give you credit for as many throttle body cores as you send him (25.00 each, i think). i have three, and am always on the lookout for more. he has 250 feedbacks; 100% positive, si i think he's worth taking a chance on.

bolting a 2" tbi on a stock intake doesn't make much sense, as the stock sized holes in the intake would kill any benefit you got from the bigger-bore tbi. i guess this combination he's selling is an attempt to make that easier for people. the stock intake, however, flows like crap. if you put a 2" tbi on an aftermarket intake, though, you'll need to have the holes enlarged, anyway.

my advice would be to buy his 2" small block tbi over the holley 670 or a 454 tbi. it's a direct bolt on where there is a lot of fussing with linkages and connectors with the other two.

AFTER i bought the 2" tbi from him, i'd take it and the intake i planned on using down to a local machine shop and have them bore the holes in the intake to match the throttle body. it shouldn't cost more than 10-20.00.

then i'd get a vacuum adjustable fuel pressure regulator from lon at top down solutions. i bought one from him and found it to be complete and containing everything i needed to do the swap.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 11:55 PM
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I agree completely. I was aware of this guy but didn't know he sold package deals now. $200 would be a nice price for a stock 2" TBI. Like you said he must be making it easier for people. The other stuff he provides isn't worth the extra $100. That kinda kills the deal for me. I had my intake bored to 2" and I can tell you that it would cost more than 10 to 20 bucks. It is hard to get the intake surface planer with the mill. I had mine done for free (family business) but it took a long time to set up. I bet he has a jig which makes things really easy and therefor cheaper. It is a smart move since single units would be harder to sell than a whole package. It is just something to take into consideration.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 12:17 AM
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Yeah, I agree that the package is not worth it. It's 299 plus 60 core charge plus 30 shipping. I could find a much better place to shell out $390 granted most of us will return the core but still 330 is a lot. I do agree wholeheartedly though that the TBI unit would be worth it at 200, that's a good deal for a big bore throttle body with perfect linkages. For that, I really like the Holley TBI intake I have on mine, comes stock with 2" bores.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 12:32 AM
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Yeah, I agree that the package is not worth it. It's 299 plus 60 core charge plus 30 shipping. I could find a much better place to shell out $390 granted most of us will return the core but still 330 is a lot. I do agree wholeheartedly though that the TBI unit would be worth it at 200, that's a good deal for a big bore throttle body with perfect linkages. For that, I really like the Holley TBI intake I have on mine, comes stock with 2" bores.
i'm pretty sure you can still buy the 2" tbi units from him separately, he just doesn't have any currently listed. as a matter of fact, i'm pretty sure gunnyhighway bought one from him, and is in the process of installing it right now. if i'm right, we'll soon have information on how well it works.

he also bores 454 tbi units out to 51mm (2.02"). again, he'll set them up with the proper linkages and hookups for your application. they even come with 85lb/hr injectors! here's a link to one he had listed not long ago.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...e=STRK:MEWA:IT

i have a link to his page somewhere. can't find it right now. if i do, i'll post it.

the only thing i disagree with him on are his airflow numbers. when i asked how he got them, he said they took a holley tbi, stuck it on a flowbench and adjusted the hg setting till they got 670. then they flowed their units against that. while i believe his units flow more air than the holley unit, those airflow numbers still aren't comparable to carb flow numbers, so the airflow/cubic inch/rpm formulas still don't apply/
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 01:16 AM
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 02:55 AM
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So the tbi unit is a good one but the manifold is not. I take it an Edelbrock tbi manifold would be much better than the one he is selling?
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 03:12 AM
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Yeah, he's just selling a modified stock intake. I'd look into the Holley TBI intake if I were you, it comes with 2" bores and a large plenum it works very well.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 08:53 AM
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So the tbi unit is a good one but the manifold is not. I take it an Edelbrock tbi manifold would be much better than the one he is selling?
Yes. The only advantage os using gis intake is that it is bored to 2". You would have to do this to the edelbrock intake to use that TBI unit (well you don't have to but it would be pointless not to). The easiest route would be to go with the Holley TBI intake or a carb intake where no machine work is necessary. You call around though and see ho wmuch it would cost to bore out your intake. I was told that it would have been at least over a hundred bux when I had mine done. I would find a shop that may do intake machine as part of their every day work. Costs will be much chepaer than a shop that does not.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by seanof30306
i'm pretty sure you can still buy the 2" tbi units from him separately, he just doesn't have any currently listed. as a matter of fact, i'm pretty sure gunnyhighway bought one from him, and is in the process of installing it right now. if i'm right, we'll soon have information on how well it works.
Yep, sure do. I'm very impressed with the way it's put together. The only thing you need to be sure of is to take a picture of your stock linkage and vacuum ports. The first one he sent me had the wrong linkage on it, but after sending him a pic of mine, he promptly sent me another one.

As for the intake, I pulled "a Shifty" and had my Edelbrock bored out by a local shop. I think it cost $50 or so.
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