Ram air or open air element
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Ram air or open air element
Hey everyone, I have a 305 TBI 1988 with the normal stock air filter set up. I was going to either add another snorkel tube to the open side of the air cleaner and then remove my signal lights and re-position them underneath the frame to make a ram air type of system, or should i by an open air element..................which will add the most HP???
Any info would be greatly appreciated........
Any info would be greatly appreciated........
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open elements are very cheap and easy to install, but dont add much if any hp.. the ram air would be a lot better except for maybe the looks of it unless you do it in aluminum tubes or somethin
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That's what i figured. I am going to fabricate a dual snorkel setup.........I will post pictures when complete
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That's what i figured. I am going to fabricate a dual snorkel setup.........I will post pictures when complete
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I just put in a dual snorkel air intake, but i havent rigged up any scoops or snorkel tubes. so, it is basically an open air intake sucking in the warm air from the engine compartment.
I would go with some sort of cold air intake, because from a stop (after the air in the engine compartment heats up), the car feels like it bogs. it never did this before, and i'm assuming its because of the warm air in the comparment.
I would go with some sort of cold air intake, because from a stop (after the air in the engine compartment heats up), the car feels like it bogs. it never did this before, and i'm assuming its because of the warm air in the comparment.
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I'm a hardcore cai/rai fan, but open elements are highly underrated.
the simple removal of the hot air valve(i don't remember what it's called) and the small *** intake entrace at the front of the hood is nothing short of amazing on these cars.
anyway, there are several very old threads on how to effectively make a cai/rai setup, but nobody's come up with an elegant, specific, or easy design.
the best one I've seen to date is to cut your stock air box's arm down to about 2-3" from the box, turn it so it faces front, buy a tpi air box setup for the front bumper, and connect the two via some sort of intake hose. you can take this further by buying the metal inserts for the tpi box from hawks, buying the 1" raised air filter lid from a mid 90's blazer or several other trucks/suv's of the era, or buying a powerbowl(though you can't use both the raised lid and the powerbowl). on top of that, you can buy a k&n(although a firmly believe in amsoil foam filters, flow the same, filter better, and 20 bucks cheaper) filter, just to make sure that you're getting the most air possible. also, if/when you do this setup, make sure you stick with the circle filter as opposed to the two squares, that way you're getting the most out of the ram air effect.
from there you can still do numerous things, such as free tbi mods, an injector spacer, hell, you could get the '83 ram air hood, cut a hole out of the top of the lid, line it with rubber, and stick a piece of foam in it.
the possibilities are endless, the air is there, and so are the parts, it's just a matter of how far you want to go.
personally, everything I just mentioned would look far more appealing, and be far more effective, than removing your side lights.
as for the open element, it's the cleanest look and it's the cheapest, but that's about all it's got going for it, compared to most other options.
the simple removal of the hot air valve(i don't remember what it's called) and the small *** intake entrace at the front of the hood is nothing short of amazing on these cars.
anyway, there are several very old threads on how to effectively make a cai/rai setup, but nobody's come up with an elegant, specific, or easy design.
the best one I've seen to date is to cut your stock air box's arm down to about 2-3" from the box, turn it so it faces front, buy a tpi air box setup for the front bumper, and connect the two via some sort of intake hose. you can take this further by buying the metal inserts for the tpi box from hawks, buying the 1" raised air filter lid from a mid 90's blazer or several other trucks/suv's of the era, or buying a powerbowl(though you can't use both the raised lid and the powerbowl). on top of that, you can buy a k&n(although a firmly believe in amsoil foam filters, flow the same, filter better, and 20 bucks cheaper) filter, just to make sure that you're getting the most air possible. also, if/when you do this setup, make sure you stick with the circle filter as opposed to the two squares, that way you're getting the most out of the ram air effect.
from there you can still do numerous things, such as free tbi mods, an injector spacer, hell, you could get the '83 ram air hood, cut a hole out of the top of the lid, line it with rubber, and stick a piece of foam in it.
the possibilities are endless, the air is there, and so are the parts, it's just a matter of how far you want to go.
personally, everything I just mentioned would look far more appealing, and be far more effective, than removing your side lights.
as for the open element, it's the cleanest look and it's the cheapest, but that's about all it's got going for it, compared to most other options.
Last edited by FreeLoader; May 4, 2006 at 02:07 AM.
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