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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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Double Barrel cool air intake from GM parts

I know there are a ton of these mods but this one looks clean and is easy.
I got the parts from the junk yard and they were cheep. I got a few air ducts and stuff and headed home. This is what came out of all the parts.
I think I can post photos......

Well check it out.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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Here are some other photos.
The air intake on the bottom is simply the stock intake(from the junk yard) inverted. I made a little bracket to hold this in place. The added intake is the nose off the stock intake too. I cut it and then spot welded it to the intake. Cut a hole from the inside out and I got twice the air flow. GM made room for the original hose to fit in there so two fit in there easy. I took a tall filter cover(cal cover) from a 85 malibu TBI. I fits and allow the use of a taller filter. More air more filter...right
Well there you have it.

Ron
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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That is actually not too bad of a set-up and I can't recall if I have ever seen one like that. I would try to route that one duct up out of the engine bay. You kinda have it in a poor location. I see that you have a STB which makes running a traditional f-body dual snorkel unit diffucult. This may be a great alternative.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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I'm glad you like it Shifty.
Which hose do you refer? The lower one?
Is it too close to the motor you think?
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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I'm glad you like it Shifty.
Which hose do you refer? The lower one?
Is it too close to the motor you think?
I am refering to the one that is not bolted down in the stock location. You can't see it in your final assembly pictures. I would try to route it as close to the other one as possible. Having it close to the engine like that doesn't promote "cool"/ambeint air ingestion.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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Ok. I see what you are saying. I think I could tie that up to the strut support (Zip ties)and get it away from the motor more.
Good idea
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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IMO, open element works better and is easier...
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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I like that setup too! I never thought of it...I have a regular dual snorkel setup (that looks like Robot arms)...your idea is something to try perhaps...might get a little cramped in the engine bay with all the ducting however...hmm

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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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IMO, open element works better and is easier...
Open elemtn ftw...oldschool
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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Open elemtn ftw...oldschool
And not smog legal either
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Open elemtn ftw...oldschool
They work, that's one reason so many fast cars run them.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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And not smog legal either
30 second job to put the stock one on for inspection and testing once a year
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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what about combining the dual snorkel with the TPI type setup?...what do you think?

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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by brodyscamaro
30 second job to put the stock one on for inspection and testing once a year
Depends on what you drive and where you live. In cali they have road block smog checks believe it or not. Thank god Texas doesn't. If you have one in Cali and get stopped at a road block smog check, you are screwed and pay a hefty fine.

The open element sounds better for sure, but it sucks in way too much hot underhood air for my taste.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by brodyscamaro
IMO, open element works better and is easier...
Well the thing I was going for was to bring in cool air not heated air from under the hood.
When I come in from a drive and lift the hood I can feel the difference in the cal cover temp and the Strut tower temp.
It may be no big deal or big differance in HP. I just think cool air is a good thing.

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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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[QUOTE=Crusin' 1980's]I like that setup too! I never thought of it...I have a regular dual snorkel setup (that looks like Robot arms)...your idea is something to try perhaps...might get a little cramped in the engine bay with all the ducting however...hmm

Wow Crusin that looks like it will pull in the air.
Here is a shot with the top hose off.
This shows a little more info.

Ron
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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Well I got out Last night and looked at the problem.
I found the zip ties and looked at getting the #2 hose up and out of the way.
Using the ties I joined the hoses together then lifted them and secured them to the strut brace. It looks like there is enough space there for good air flow.
Check it out Let me know what you think.
This AM I got some shots so yall can see.

I know it is hard to see but the #2 hose is 3 in. from the valve cover at its closest point.

Ron
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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Warning this may be

I had one of the air scoops left over so.....It hit me to use it to feed more air to the lower cool air intake.
My thought was if I could pull air from under the car and deliver it to the #2 intake IE the space behind the head light it couldn't hurt.
Well It fit so easy and there was a ready made mount bolt from the ground clearance mount there. I just put it on.
If some how it builds a higher air pressure there (behind the lights) at "cruse" speed. I should get better air flow "ram air".
See I told you to look out for stuff flowing down hill.
Here are the shots. The thing is hard to see behind the light mount ...and harder to photograph.
It is easy to see under the car the scoop is going to get some air.
Check it out.....

Ron
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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hey Dirtfarmer, I looked at my car today to see if i would be able to do what you did, but my evap canister for the gas is right in the way...what did you do with yours?...maybe I'll re-locate mine eventually and try what you did...but the canister seems to be right in the way of instralling another air duct right below the stock one...
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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Oh you are right I did move the canister over.
The thing has a funny mount....when you take the mount bolts out a tension held sort of hook for the bottom of the canister falls out. I just moved the canister over (toward the fender) and remounted it using self tapping screws.
That opens up the space for the inverted scoop.

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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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I did move the canister over
Good Idea...I think I'll check mine out soon and see if i can move it out of the way...i might even get creative and mount in under the car, towards the front bumper...I'll see if it can be done without showing from underneath...it would be nice if i could re-locate it completely out of view
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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I like the OE much better because it dresses up the engine bay a little bit and the sound it makes is righteous.



With the power bulge hood I'm getting soon, it should have no problems getting all the cool air it needs. Plus, I've never seen a randon road side inspection for modified cars. I suppose the cops in the Bay Area have worse things to think about.

Very cool ideas though. How did you cut the hole in the side of the air lid?
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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Cadillac,
That is a good looking rig. I think you're OE it is clean easy and looks great.
I used an air cut off wheel to cut the inside of the air lid. Then used an air grinder to "finish" the hole. The metal is thin and easy to cut. The weld there is tricky. I just spot welded several spots. I was afraid of burning a hole in it.
I plan to seal it with black high heat silicone.
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