I'm not, but should I be? There's some girl at school talking down on Camaros, and she needs to be put into place. Everyone tells me I can't beat her, but it's not a Cobra, I don't even think it's a GT, I know it's a '99 model with single outlet exhaust. No mods on it at all. She's talkin trash, and all I have is a cat-back. Can I beat her now? I bet it'd be close, cuz it's cold right now, and my car runs good when it's cold.
Next, a 1995 Integra is also talkin s**t about my car. He has "the fastest car at school" but I don't believe it. I've been in it, and he does have the gut-wrenching acceleration, but he said he had it dynoed at 201 HP. How can I beat him?
I'm not even going to bother telling you about the 95 Celica that has 135 hp, and he thinks he can beat me, ha, i could've beat him stock.

Thanks
Dave
92 Camaro RS 305 TBI
Waiting on word from a friend at the Chevy dealership to see if he can hook me up with cheap installation, then I'm thinking cam, intake, and headers all at once, that oughts give em a run. 8-)

 

I wouldn't race her just yet. Do u exaust up and get some gears and I guarentee u will beat her by 2 car lengths. When I was completly stock a long time ago, I lost a race to a Ford Probe GT stick. I don't know what there rated at but he beat me by a car length. I do exaust (no headers) and gears and I race a 222hp Stealth and I beat him by 2 car lengths. So I know the stealth is faster then the Probe and I know that the V6 mustang (that is her car if she has single exaust) is rated at like 200hp. So with exaust and gears u will spank her good and put her in her place. Then ask her out on a date afterwards and try turning her to our side.

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never fear any car.
the mustang would be close if it's a 6cyl. the integra could rock you if it is a v-tech.
do all the ultimate tbi free mods. and try to get some gears and a posi on that puppy. let them talk smack and just challenge them, make them put it on the line and knock em down.

lata
tim

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I've heard that gears are damn expensive, is this true? That's the only reason that I was going to get my headers, followed by intake and cam(same time)then get gears to top it all off. Where would that put me at(HP wise)

 

Also, the Integra is a V-Tec, I'd rather beat that one than any other car. Besides, after beating him, I'd get some American car in the winners circle. Also, I've heard that gears only add acceleration, so how could I beat the 200 HP stang with just that? I've probably got 185 at best(cat-back and air filter)Also, if I bought the gears, would I have to buy anything else to go with them?

 

gears will cost about 500 to do right. check
http://www.slpeng.com/
they usually have take out posi units for $99. then look through any copy of car craft, hot rod, super chevy and find the ads that are in there for all the cheap gear places, usually in the back ads section. that should total less than 300bucks and then most performance shops will do the install for about 200 or 250. then you just need to get the speedo correction gear. if you get 3.73 or 3.42(the 3.73's are better) you can get the speedo gear from your local gm parts counter.
the grip and ggearing from this will mean more to your car than being able to spin the tires harder by adding the exhaust and intake stuff.
take out all the useless bits before you race too(spare, sub box, passengers,ect...). lighter is better.

lata
tim

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dude, you live in highlands ranch.

the kid with the fastest car in school probably runs a blown ls1 or something on weekends. i know there are such people going to that school. If the kid in the integra has done anything to it, hes probably done a lot cuz daddy paid for it all. dont race him. The chick in the stang, tell her to pipe you. then race her. theres no way she can drive. and you better make sure you win.

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Pullmeoverred, You could try looking around junkyards for V6 or 4 cyl Camaros and Firebirds. I have seen 3.42 and 3.73 rearends under these cars from the factory on numerous occasions.The going rate on a 3rd Gen rearend around here is about $150. They probably won't be posi rearends but you can remedy that w/ some sticky ties. Just a suggestion for some cheap gears.

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this reminds me of my last drag race in the school's auto shop parking lot. A girl had a race car build for circle track racing. she brought it to school to throw a paint job on it, and everyone just gawked at the thing. the thought it was the baddest thing ever. So, they started making fun of my car, saying it wasn't as quick, they said her car would beat mine in a drag race. So I said lets find out. We lined them up. the said go, I got it rolling and nailed the gas, and left that carbed 350 pos in the dust, oh yeah, I had a 327 at the time with TBI, I left that thing like it was sitting still. Oh yeah, she said she was just a learning driver, so I said lets switch cars then. So she drove mine and I drove hers. I hit the gas and watched my car go flying ahead, proving my point. Why did I have to post this, you ask? Because, it was on my mind.

 

Depending on what size gears you are afer, youcan go to a wreckers and get a camaro rear end with 3.42 gears in them. Here in canada, a whole rear end from the wreckers is 500$ (CDN). So I imagine you can get a rear end cheaper than me. Get a cam and intake.

And SPANK the bitch, can't let a woman trash your car.

 

I don't recommend getting anything from the junkyard. Cause u have no idea what u are buying or putting into ur car. Get a summit magazine. Order some 3:73's or 3:42's for a GM 10 Bolt 7.5" and at the same time get a auburn posi for a GM 10 Bolt 7.5" and make sure both the gears and posi and carrier 3's. Trust me man. That way u will have a guarentee and you know what ur putting in ur rear end. You should be able to spank the V6 stang after that and after exaust and some other mods u should race the V-Tech. Good luck.

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I'm not scared of any of them. And yes, I live in Highlands Ranch, but the kid with the "fastest car" has only done a plastic weapon-r intake and a power chip, I don't think his daddy paid for any of it(I've never seen his daddy, and I've been over there many times)His car is fast, but I think I could be faster(much much faster) if I added a cam and intake first, then topped it off with gears. I want gears to be the last thing I do. He says he runs mid 14's, and I need to get there.

By the way, I raced the Mustang today. All I have is a cat-back, and it was cool outside, we raced to about 90 mph, and I was ahead of her bitch *** by 2 1/2 car lengths. What a POS that thing is. Now onto the VTec....

 

I am glad you raced her. No one should be afraid of a v6 mustang. They have a few more ponies but I am certain that we have a better drivetrain (just against v6). Any ways this past summer i raced a v6 stang in a bone stock GMC full size pickup (4.3V6) and I kicked the **** out of it. I was in a freaking 4300 lb vehicle and by the next light I was 3 car lenghts ahead!

 

I gotta had my 2 cents to this:

fist off consider your self lucky to have a mustang insulting u. i pull up to line all the time and lil *** bitch rides be revvinf there lil ***** to death ( i sit there with the look: u must be kidding ). in the past month a ford focus, rusted *** mini van, old chevy truck, and some type of honda has tried to race me. to be honest i fell insulted that they feel they have a chance to beat me. ( guess i'm just pissed )

the only car that tries to race me is my friend ( rich *** ) 99 mustang gt and i know he will kick my ***

Question: i thought your speedo worked by something hooked up to the tranny and not rear end gears: reason i ask is because i might get a 3.23 posi from a friend and need more info. thanks

 

Snuf, you rock man. The best moderator on this board by FAR.

Now to topic. I wouldn't do cat back yet, nor intake. I would do gears first, then headers and tune the car. I'm just trying to figure if that'll be all that you need to spank that v6 bitch. The headers and gears will work wonders together. The gears will really help because all it's doing is lowering your top speed and making it into acceloration. The headers compliment ever other power adder you ever add. Say you only get 10hp from adding headers. So what, because if you added a cam and intake later you'll have ~45hp over stock. If you didn't do the headers you'd probably not even have 25hp gain. It works like that and so I stongly believe in gears w/posi then headers. I think you should give them all a run for there money with that combo. If you want to be sure take her (car, not girl....yet) to the track and get 3 runs in. Then ask the others what they've gotten at the track. If they haven't gone or they don't say then just race them and see what happens. If you loose you loose, it's that simple. Then you have the advantage because you can get back to us about how it all went in detail with rpms and how you felt. That way we can help you on your next try. If you beat them then you win, you're king of the hill for a while. Here is my problem: GM introduces TBI for cars but makes them super low hp vehicles thanks to the super crappy cam shaft, aweful exhaust, terrible intake. We upgrade the cam, exhaust, intake and you've got a screamer that runs with the TPI guys except they usually get better gas milage. I guess what I'm venting about is how GM created this great cheap powerful and full of potential system but never did anything with it. Look at the 454 ss pickup that had the TBI big block, even that made crappy hp thanks to an ultra small cam and only ~650cfm for a 454 is pathetic. Don't you sometimes wish GM would have produced a camaro with a 350 TBI system with a hot cam and good exhaust. Sorry for the drifting off of the subject: back on track.
If your trans is stock and shifts like crap then the gears won't do you much good. The idea is to get the most power you have to the ground as fast as possible and that means quick shifts and gears that keep your engine in the power range. Good luck and let us know how you do.


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hey, pullmeover. which hs do you go to? Highlands Ranch over off :trying to remember: is it countyline or am i off a ways. anyway. i know some people there. my dad lives over in lonetree, and my roomate lived at the END of broadway.

where you at.

My old roomate had a sister, her last name is leonard. shes BIG. i dont remember her name though. He went to regis, not highlands ranch. I forgot, but the kids at regis are spoiled as hell, but dont know how to handle the chicks when they get to college like us, public school peeps.

lata. maybe next time im in CO ill hit you up or something, i might be out durring spring break or somethin.

 

there are always bigger dogs around. Remember trash is trash.
Gotta get thick skinned or you will get hurt trying to prove a point.
Want to go fast?. Take it to the track, chances are alot less of killing someone.

BTW, I have lots of stainless steel holding my spine together from just a wet road, might think about things like that before street racing.

Make some mods, and have some fun.
Like racing you need to be around to finish!

 

Grumpy, your point is well taken, but a race is a race!! You are out to see if you and your car have what it takes.

Quote: J-Rod:
Question: i thought your speedo worked by something hooked up to the tranny and not rear end gears: reason i ask is because i might get a 3.23 posi from a friend and need more info. thanks
End.

Your speedo does hook to your tranny. With different gears, your wheels are turning at a different speed, the tranny has to spin faster (I think, or it could be slower) and therefore throwing off your reading. Thats why you have to go to the dealer and get a gear for your speedo. (I think this is what you were asking, if not, my mistake)

 

Thanks Godti-

i guess i just didn't put the two together

hell it was 2 in the morning

thanks again

 

Getting off the subject a little most people who go to Regis are stuck up ******. I think the most for people who go to Highlands Ranch(guilty until proven innocent) But hell most people think people go got my scholl are the same way. I go to a school a little south of there that starts with an C and ends with and E Most people think the same thing about my school with people driving Hummers and all.

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Mike Kenny
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Future: 2" Cowl hood

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I almost forgot let me watch you waste the next car...

 

16 year olds driving hummers? Man, WTF? Thats just ridiculous!

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He has been the state wrestling champ for the past three years, so I guess they are rewards I still think that is pathetic
He owns or has owned a:
Hummer
Viper
Caddy (new three weeks ago)
Ford Excursion

Not kidding I guess daddy will do anything

 

Dude, that is ridiclous. I don't care what kind of awards or championships he's won. A viper and a hummer AND Caddy and a Ford Excursion???? Thats stuipd! Is he Master P or somethin?

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[This message has been edited by 91Bird305 (edited February 07, 2001).]

 

sorry but if i was state wrestling champ in co i wouldnt get all high and might. my old hs has the number 4 ranked wresting team in the country. and is 1 in state. when i was a freshman, we had kid name david keldgjard (sp) 1# recruted athlete in the country, over football too yes. went to russia for that summer to practice and then went to oklahoma state.

point is, colorado wresting, big deal.

btw, NEO, do you know a sarah or nicki that now go to colorado state? they didnt go to your school, but they were hot, and hung out with a lot of people from your school. one was homecoming queen, well woulda been 3 years ago now. how old are you?

 

Snuf, I am 17 (18 in July) Those names do not ring a bell, I was kinda a loaner / loser when I was a freshmen so I did not know a lot of people from area schools.

 

Snuf, I do go to Highlands Ranch HS, and it's off University(good try though, I can't remember any streets from where I used to live) Yea, you should give me a buzz when you're down here next time, Lone Tree is right across the street(I work at the golf course)Neo, the C and the E, I'm guessing Columbine? Bad reps, just like our school, it's some bull***t.
But anyway, I gotta wait for the snow to stop, I'm looking to save all of my money now to mod the hell out of my car in June(graduation $$$$)Then I'll get gears(probably 3.42's, I've heard they're good all around, then a cam, intake, and headers. Take them to a buddy of mine at the Chevy dealership, have him hook me up on installation, and I'll be pulling out of there like a bat out of hell.
Thanks for your help brothers, and I'm glad I can come to you to help me keep my car running good.
BTW:: I have ricers pull up and rev their lawnmower engines at me too, but I chose not to mention them because they are not worth my time. I think their mufflers weigh more than their cars do, so i don't get that. Even though I have a TBI(haha, sucks for me....not) I make a joke out of their asses in front of all their white-guy-who-knows-Chinese- friends
Keep it real all

Dave

 

if all my post get closed this one better too...

 

PullmeoverRed, You got my school right. You are so smart I will keep in touch with you the progression of the Colorado F and Y body club. And Tas be quiet, lol.

 

dirk said as long as it starts tbi tech, it can stay, even if it goes nontech.

but i didnt delete this one because it is helping people, eventually tech, because people are well, meeting eachother. ok its not tech now. but it was. thats why.

 

o ya, and i hate you taz. and im a bias *******. just kidding. i like you man. if you really want me to ill close it.

 

I really do not see why Tas should care. It is not cutting into his bandwith, it is not his surver. Not trying to start a war just stating an opinion.

 

Neo....I know why ur here Neo....I know why you sit at your computer night after lonely night....your looking for the anwser to the question Neo.....What is the Matrix?

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Eric Natzke
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Ok, I see this going downhill, I'll start a new post instead, i just got word(been getting the word since I got my car) that upgrading to a 350 is more cost efficient than getting all teh mods I have planned.

MODERATOR:: Close this post

 

Quick Neo....there isn't much time. The thread will be closed in seconds....Go to the empty cubical across from u....are u ready to see how far the rabbit hole goes? Take the Red Pill....

Pullmeover, a 350 is going to be the best mod u will ever do to ur car......in the matrix....

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