Just couldn't get the damn thing running with the TBI and I have to have it running by this weekend because I lose my daily driver. Yanked the computer controlled stuff (anyone want to buy a new MSD distributor) and threw a 750 Holley on there. When I get the cash to buy another car I'll give her to someone to put the TBI back on and hook up the Haltech and program her. Until then, I've got to have a daily drivable car.

I'm sorry. I have failed. <sob> Please be gentle.

Steve

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Looks good. Have fun and DRIVE IT!!!

I think I'm goin' carb!

damn thats looking hot

i cant beleive youre making that a daily driver. :O.

youde have to spend $$ and got dfi to get tbi runnin on that quikly.

[This message has been edited by snflupigus (edited July 23, 2001).]

Well I had the Haltech all set up to go - I just couldn't get it to run at all in order to start messing with it!! I'm totally bummin, but what're ya gonna do?! Got to have a car right?

I'll get some bills paid off, then buy a new car so's I can make this more than just another carb'd monster.

Steve

you arent going to drive that around in the rain are you???!

well. keep us updated for when it goes tbi again. and i will let you know when you can run my tbi

Well, I'm probably going to be running it in the rain, yeah. Why? Cause of the hood? No biggie, I'm making another ram air box to jam air in there through a Dodge Cummins Diesel K & N air filter. I'll post pix - just in case some of you guys want to do the same for the TBI, after all that's what it was going on originally...

Steve

EDIT: AND definitely keep me posted on your TBI - Hell if it's still in limbo after the first of the year give me a shout, I should have all of my bills paid off and can front some cash for it...

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[This message has been edited by scauffiel (edited July 24, 2001).]

I'm not surprised. We're having a heck of a time getting a 383 happy with a ZZ4 cam and 454 TBI in a friend's 87 El Camino. But after burning quite a few chips, we've got it running and driveable. Let me just say the 8746 TBI computer sucks!

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Nice, I love carbs more than TPI and I have to say that engine bay is awsome its very clean.

Alright I'm glad you switched your on the right side now baby, the TPI is good but Carb is less maintenance.

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1986 Iroc z28
4bbl 350 V8 430 hp
300 shot NOS
6 spd Manual
20" Iroc replica Rims
2, 12" Alpine Subs
4.11 gear ratio
1/4 mile - 10.52s and 10.86s

carb? eeeew

There is NOOOOOOOO WAYYYY that a carb is less maint than TBI/TPI. Just Noooooooooo way.

well, actually there is A way. less electronical maintnance. but, hey, if you cant use a computer yet, you're probably washing cars for a living.

o ya, and im almost positive i will have something by then. now that school is starting i have more $. living is subsidised durring the months im in school
so im saving 500 a month now, and that should cover finishing the body on my 69, and building a tbi.

[This message has been edited by snflupigus (edited July 26, 2001).]

i have a fully decked out 383 which i built, and pleased to say i learned to program, burn, and fully tune this puppy to run without a hitch in less than 6months. 6months ago i didn't know what an eprom was, i now program the thing for a truck with a laptop beside me.

look at the specs below for the engine, this engine is cabable of 400hp and i managed to pull a 26foot travel trailer fully loaded, 14ft boat and trailer two outboards and another 12ft boat ontop of the 14ft boat and got 14mpg with this engine in a 1ton crew cab 4x4 weighting in at 6000lbs and doing 55-60mph. not bad for a newbee and the help of thirdgen board.

there is now way in hell i would go back to a carb. running tbi and the scanner tells you exactly what your engine whats. the engine has a brain! carbs are stupid as a stump, what ever the carb feeds this is what the engine gets, no less no more!

all carbs imo can be tuned for wot properly but then love lots of fuel during normal driving conditions. tbi has this beat bigtime!! the numbers prove it, mpgallon!!!

i had the hot hp bbc and sbc carbed, none of them got this kind of operating flexability as fuel injection. starting a cold engine with a carb compared to tbi, well you all know the answer to this!

fuel injection is here to stay boys, learn how or be left behind, thats what you guys showed me.

show me a carb that can be tuned for all out go at the track, then run the vehicle as a daily driver and get good performance and mileage, NOT! it can be done but you better have an expensive carb and know what your doing. my 69gto ragtop has 400hp and does a high 12sec quarter, but gets 8-10mpg all the time!!!! with its stock 400ci ram air engine.

this is only mo, being a newbee to tbi or even tpi which ever is your fancy. all done in fun.

383 stroker, 64cc 23deg trickflow heads c/w edlebrock performer intake and adapter, cam is an extreme 4x4 comp. Cam. 12-235-2 grind ( .447/.462 lift, duration 210 218 lift @50, 111 lobe separation) . unit has hypr. Flattop floating pistons, eagle cast crank, 5.7eagle rods. 10.2:1 comp. Headers c/w 2.5” flowmaster exhaust. 16147060 pcm, $85def
454tbi 80lbinjectors

Oh, I have a ton of Computer smarts and can write programs and i know many different computer languages, but I also like the sounds that a Carb engine makes.

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1986 Iroc z28
4bbl 350 V8 430 hp
300 shot NOS
6 spd Manual
20" Iroc replica Rims
2, 12" Alpine Subs
4.11 gear ratio
1/4 mile - 10.52s and 10.86s

yea right . I've seen your posts. They look like you bought your first computer yesterday.
as for your:
Its a load of crap. Lets see some pics. prove me wrong.

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'89 Formula WS-6

305, TBI, auto, 14x3 chrome flat based open element with K&N, Milodon 160* thermo, functional Formula hood, cross-flow Flowmaster, '99z28 rear pipes and tips....

To be installed eventually far far far into the future: Yours if the price is right and I don't have to ship :
Hooker 1-5/8" 50 state legal headers, Dynomax 3" I pipe (PN 44063 and 43248), Catco 3" cat, and injector spacer.

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Well, PRSCARF, I'll certainly be picking your brain when I go to revist this issue. I didn't want to go carb, but I have to have a car to drive, else no job, no money, then before you know it no car... Of course, I still can't get the friggin carb to work right either...

I love it.

Steve

[QUOTE]Originally posted by scauffiel:
[B]Well, PRSCARF, I'll certainly be picking your brain when I go to revist this issue. I didn't want to go carb, but I have to have a car to drive, else no job, no money, then before you know it no car... Of course, I still can't get the friggin carb to work right either...

about 5 months ago you where helping me answer some basic questions on all the tbi terms and i will help you any way i can. i am no expert but i have burned approximately 150 chips for my truck to get things the way i want and am still learning everyday and burning for fine tuning.