Ok.. I was driving home one night.. And an interga vtek wanted to play.. Of course I would rather go on a track and race than late at night when I cant see the cops.. So i didnt race.. I was wandering if I would have been able to whip him or beat him at all... Does anyone know what imports we can beat easily or it depends on how they are modified... Many imports around where I live. J/W?

 

Sorry, heres Pro....

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92 Camaro 305 TBI Automatic. 2.5 high flow cat and 2.5 pipes into3.5in tip, shift kit. Tinted windows(legal), Spark plug wires and plugs...

Future mods. Headers, O.E., any other advise on getting to 300+ HP would be appreciated. Thanks
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System = Sony explode CD/MD receiver, Rockford 6x9 Fanatics, 4x6 Clarion in the front, 2 12" Hx2's(Rockford) in custom box(black carpet) 1 farad cap, 800x2= 932 total watts Rockford Amp 4gauge wire kit.

 

maybe off the line, but not in the long run.

 

chances are, he knew what he could to against you. would not have been pretty. yours is basically stock, and some of those vtecs ran low to mid 15's for motor trend. been there myself a few times. then again, i'll race anything........

 

So basically, he would whip me and if I want to compete I should get some NOS and a supercharger while hes still on 87 octane???? That sucks.. I but I love my camaro

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92 Camaro 305 TBI Automatic. 2.5 high flow cat and 2.5 pipes into3.5in tip, shift kit. Tinted windows(legal), Spark plug wires and plugs...

Future mods. Headers, O.E., any other advise on getting to 300+ HP would be appreciated. Thanks
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System = Sony explode CD/MD receiver, Rockford 6x9 Fanatics, 4x6 Clarion in the front, 2 12" Hx2's(Rockford) in custom box(black carpet) 1 farad cap, 800x2= 932 total watts Rockford Amp 4gauge wire kit.

 

With mods like an intake, headers, exhaust and maybe a few random bolt-ons (performance chip, underdrive pulleys, LTI camshaft) you'd be able to take an Integra no problem.

 

Is the weight the main factor? I mean... 4pistons vs 8... and they run the same times..?? then again are cars or 10 to 20 years old.......

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92 Camaro 305 TBI Automatic. 2.5 high flow cat and 2.5 pipes into3.5in tip, shift kit. Tinted windows(legal), Spark plug wires and plugs...

Future mods. Headers, O.E., any other advise on getting to 300+ HP would be appreciated. Thanks
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System = Sony explode CD/MD receiver, Rockford 6x9 Fanatics, 4x6 Clarion in the front, 2 12" Hx2's(Rockford) in custom box(black carpet) 1 farad cap, 800x2= 932 total watts Rockford Amp 4gauge wire kit.

 

I beat many an integra and civic in my day with no problem. Those cars suck period.

 

BahamutRS is right. I've done most of the mods he listed (minus cam) and I run middle to low 15's with a 2.73 rearend! I just saw The Fast & Furious the other night and all the riced up cars were racing in the parking lot. Of course I layed down a 10 foot burnout leaving all those imports in a cloud of smoke. Then met a Civic with beehive exhaust at the stoplight. . .I smoked him Felt GREAT !!

 

i saw more ricers than ide ever seen at the theater durring that premier. almost got tboned by a 86 acura thinkin he was fast. it was baby blue for christs sake, he locked em up for about 30 feet, i was hopeing he would hit me, so i could get out and beat the sh*t out of him, and then get a new camaro to start playing with from the begining again

 

Hondas, Toyotas, Datsuns (Nissan drivers HATE it when you call their cars "Datsun"), Mitsubishis, Izuzus, it's all the same to me. I've had a few of them stuck in my fender wells. I usually find them on wash day, amid all the brake dust and other road debris. I love to creep up on those ricers doing 85 on the highway, fill both their mirrors, then whip it out and show them where the torque comes from.



Big cars can be fun, too! 4,500 pounds and I still keep passing them after the first 200' of "land-yacht lag". I had an Izuzu Impulse give me a lot of trouble a while back in the ol' TA. As soon as it hits 50,000 miles I'm seriously thinking about making it run better...

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Later,
Vader
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"Let the bodies hit the floor!"
Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

Well its good to know that were still on top after all these years....


With the lil mods I've done.. what time do you think I could run in the 1/4.. My car is nearly 10 years old and Im sure id didnt have 170hp when I got the car

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92 Camaro 305 TBI Automatic. 2.5 high flow cat and 2.5 pipes into3.5in tip, shift kit. Tinted windows(legal), Spark plug wires and plugs...

Future mods. Headers, O.E., any other advise on getting to 300+ HP would be appreciated. Thanks
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System = Sony explode CD/MD receiver, Rockford 6x9 Fanatics, 4x6 Clarion in the front, 2 12" Hx2's(Rockford) in custom box(black carpet) 1 farad cap, 800x2= 932 total watts Rockford Amp 4gauge wire kit.

 

well, i just thought i'd put my experience on this post...

my friend at work has a 98 vtech integra M5, with full exhaust and cold air. we raced about a two months ago-i had the mods listed in the sig. i had him until 60 then we were even and at about 85 he had me by about a car and a half. definitely if i had headers, i coulda taken him.

Pat

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'92 Firebird 305 TBI
3.73 Posi
ASCD Ram Air Hood
14X3 K&N
'00 WS6 Exhaust
'00 16x8 Wheels

http://www.geocities.com/birdv8

 

Vader, have you seen the Tim Allen Impalla SS? Sweet car. LT5. Nuff' said.

 

Do of any of you race on the street... Im sure you do.. anyway.. Do you go until you win or do stop at a certain speed.. I want to race(imports) but would rather do it on the trac.. Which I cant find,, PLus I don't need and tickets on my record


I race a crx a while back and we started around 40 we hit about 60 and he started to beat so at 70 I stopped... I was suprised he could do that.

 

Have you seen any of the several 535-inch BBC Impala retrofits? They're even more cool!

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Later,
Vader
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"Let the bodies hit the floor!"
Adobe Acrobat Reader

 

In street racing you go 'till somebody give up.

-Mark W.
'88 SC Camaro w/ 305 TBI

 

Vader, to answer your question, nope, I sure haven't. I bet they are awesome though.

 

even the 2nd gen integra's will take our TBI equiped cars on the top end. My friends will easily pul 130.. ours are freakin limited to 115(tested that MANY times.).. of course with the limiter off(brown wire.. A20 I believe.) we should be able to do 136.. i'll find out one day.

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previous ride: 87 Camaro LT
350, A4.Comp Cams 268H, Edelbrock Preformer intake, Hedman Headers and y-pipe, gutted cat, No AIR/smog pump. 14x3" Open element K&N, Q-jet w/ D hanger and DA rods, adjusted AV spring tension and quick can.

Current ride: 1992 Camaro RS, K&N, Flowmaster, 305, T5, Black, T-tops, 76k miles.

 

I just found out that my car doesn't have a speed limiter. Just a few weeks ago, i was doing 4,500 rpm in fifth gear (.63 overdrive) with a 3.42 ratio gear, and that calculates to 145mph. I didn't want to push it beyond that point, but i know it could've went faster.

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Pat Hirsz
www.iit.edu/~hirspat/MyPage2.htm
88 305TBI
Mods:Hooker Aerochamber 3" exhaust, no cat,SLP 1 5/8" headers and y-pipe March pullies, no smog, 180 thermo,
14x4 K&N, 3.42 gears(open), Ultimate TBI Mods,AFPR,MSD(ignition,coil&wires),Edelbrock TBI Manifold, 190ltr/hr fuel pump,
Eibach springs with KYB's all around,
Harwood cowl hood, Z-28 wing, fresh paint(black)
120,000 miles, 5spd, T-tops
0-60mph-7.2s-Gteched

92 RS, 305TBI, auto, 3.08 gears, 180 thermo, glasspack (no muffler)

 

I went to 110 on mine.. As soon as i get a chip(VSS limiter disabled) and after the mods ill start to play with em impOOts.. JUst a general question.. Why is that we cant stand mustangs but noone seems to mind them imports.. I would rather ride with an American made car than an import. Just something to think kabout...

 

Not to argue, but anything after half throttle will kick your tranny out of overdrive, unless you have installed what ever that thing is called. Another thing is to make sure that the torque converter was locked up. I have no doubt your car could do 146 mph, but I don't think it did it that day. A friend's '93 Dodge stealth, with single overhead cams did 133mph. That motor is only rated at 165 hp and 180 lb - ft of torque, and weighs 3200 pounds. I'm sure your car could do it.

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'87 Silverado
350 4 bolt main bore .040 over
TB Injected
Ported and Polished heads
Comp cams 268h cam and top end
Flowtech headers
3.73s on Detroit locker

 

Ive raced my friend in his 95GS-R and I have wooped him every time. We've raced like two-three blocks reaching like 65(not sure), but I always kick his a$$. The first time we raced I thought i would lose for sure. He has a 5spd, headers, cat-back, intake. Never raced faster longer than that but if we go there I probably lose.

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91 Camaro LO3 RS 5-spd
Open air element, 16in Chrm IROC-Z wheels, dual 30in chrm exhaust tips, Z-28 wing,ACCEL 8mm wires w/cap n rotor, K&N filter, flowmaster, headers in near future.


"Honda's are like Tampons...every p#$$y has one."

 

I'm a tru chevy man thru and thru. But where I live the imports eat everything. I saw a civic Si race a 1999 SS and it killed it the whole way. My buddy just bought a 1996 Supra Targa and it can't be beat. Anothe rkid has a Subaru WRX and that car is fast as hell too. The worst I saw was a 1996 Suzuiki GSXR lose to a 1991 Dodge Stealth Twin Turbo!!! The funniest was a 1999 Civic with NOS losing to a stock GNX. These cars are bad A$$ but there are still those punks who think there 1992 Prelude is Fast and we still can show them up. Just be careful and know what to look for.

 

sounds like you are a ***** through and through. There several great import forums why dont you start talking to them and leave us the hell alone.

 

vtec's can beat us when it comes to topend. But I have beat a couple of them before I hit the limiter. Here a list of what I have beat so far. 94 civic, 96 Acura Integra, 97 maxima, 98 BMW Z3, 98 SLK 230, 01 SLK 320, 97,98 Expedition, 00 Caddy Jeep, 99 Crown vic, 85 stang GT, 95 GT, We can beat a lot of car you just have to be ready. We have to kill they before you hit the limiter.

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Black 89 Formula
Stock 305 TBI
Automatiac, T-Tops
WS6 Package, Energy Suspension Bushings 3 inch flowmasters, open element air cleaner, always use sunco 94

 

the stock lo3 can be beaten easy buy just about anything slightly modified. Sure i have beaten a lot of cars but,i do not really want to admit it but i really dont care anymore. I Have Been Beaten By a Neon. That was a sad day for me. I pull up to a red light and a white neon pulled up to me and started reving its huge engine at me i really didnot care to race him but the just kept reving and there was no one infront of me so i say what the hell and we are off. and to make a long story short he killed me, the sad part was that he was one of those people that go around thumping with there visors turned sideways thinking that they are badA$s and his car looked stock other than a 6" muffler commming out the back and when we started i didnot even peel the tires i know he could have had no2 but i have been depresed about my cars preformance since but i am currently putting a 350 in so watch out imports

 

Does anybody remember last year's Summer Nationals in Worcester at the burnouts, when the Neon couldn't smoke 'em? There were guys holding up the wheel wells and everything...pathetic. Don't feel bad, man, that 350'll have 'em wondering why they bought Slowpar.

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'89 RS LO3- 140,000 miles
14x3 K&N Open Element
Ram stock replacement clutch
Edelbrock TES (Jet-hot coated)
Catco cat
Edelbrock 3" Cat-back
KYB GR-2 Struts and Shocks
Pioneer DEH-P77
Midland 77-115 with 3' Firestik and 100 watt police PA
Dual .50 caliber machine guns just under ground effects

Coming:
Edelbrock Strut Tower Brace
Spohn subframe connectors

When your buddy reaches for a 10-pound sledge and says "I think we're gonna have to modify the floor pan, okay?" the answer is NO.

 

Little imports are no doubt cute...but have you ever heard anyone describe your camaro or firebird as "cute"!?! Some imports are very fast, and it blows my mind as to how cheap they are to mod. I haven't had that many problems with imports, and the problems i have had were (as stated above) results of speed govenors. But if need be, you can still get'em in the turns...at 110 mph an 3rd gen f-body holds onto you (and the road)like it was your mother!And...always remember...if you can't smoke the back, get off the track! That my friends is one advantage they will never have on us!

 

I own a Neon and let me tell you there is absolutely no way it could even challenge an stock LO3, let alone a modded one. That guy definetely had something else under the hood, so don't feel so bad


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92 Camaro RS, LO3, 5-spd, T-tops

Performance:
K&N Open Air Filter, Edelbrock performer TBI intake, Fastchip Prom, Timing +4 degrees, Centerforce clutch, Xact 8mm wires, SLP 1 3/4" Headers (coated), Flowmaster Catback Exhaust, Z28 Grille w/aftmkt fog lamps, MacEwen white-face guages
Electronics:
Alpine 8030 Alarm System, Valentine One Radar Detector (How did I ever drive without one?), Pioneer DEH 7450 Head Unit w/6-pack CD changer, Pioneer DEQ 7600 Sound Processor, 2 Kenwood KAC-846 Amps powering 2 12" Pro Red subs, 2 Pioneer 6x9 and 2 MTX 4x6 speakers.
NEXT UP: TBI mods, 3.42 gears w/Torsen posi

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by robleegordon:
I saw a civic Si race a 1999 SS and it killed it the whole way.

IF a Civic Si Killed a 1999 SS the civic went to have the NOS bottle filled and the SS Driver needs his *** kicked for bing in reverse.


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90RS 305TBI\5-speed
Fastchip
Open Air Cleaner
1.5 Roller Rockers
Lakewood LCA & Panhard,10 Bolt Posi-Disk Rearend 2.73
KYB all around
Energy Supension front end kit
36/24 Sway bars
Dual Fans
In the works-
LT-1 Cam

1994 Formula
Custom PCM
LCA's
Panhard Bar
Posi 3.42
Ported MAF
K&N air

 

Want to hear something cool? My good friend's father has a 1996 Impala SS. He has headers, intake, exhaust (no cats) and a 150 shot of nitrous. With the bottle on, he runs 13.8 or something like that! Without it, he runs high 14's. It's a kickass car that is LOUD AS HELL. My good friend has a 1994 T/A 25th Anniversary, and sometimes I find myself asking him to take the Impala out instead of the T/A.

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1992 Camaro RS (Auto)
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Performance mods
NOS (100 HP shot)
Dynomax cat-back exhaust
Hedman headers
K & N open element/ X-Stream lid
MSD 6A ignition
Under drive pulleys
LT1 camshaft
Coming soon:
1.6 roller rockers
Torquer heads
Edelbrock TBI/intake

Audio
Sony Xplod CDX-M610 head unit
Pioneer 2-way 4x6 front speakers
Pioneer 3-way 6x9 rear speakers
12 inch Pioneer VCCS PRO subwoofer
QLogic sealed box
Kicker ZR360 amplifier
Lightning Audio 1 farad capacitor
Other
Macewen White Faced Gauges/Shift overlay
A-pillar gauges (Phantom oil pressure, Air/Fuel)
180* thermostat
Window Tint
Under car neons (green)

 

Around here, there are a LOT of 5.0 Mustang's rolling around, and that's what I want to concentrate on beating. To hell with imports, only like 1 out of 1000 kids here invest in a turbo or nitrous rather than a flashy body kit, so it's all show and 100 HP. :P

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1992 Camaro RS (Auto)
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Performance mods
NOS (100 HP shot)
Dynomax cat-back exhaust
Hedman headers
K & N open element/ X-Stream lid
MSD 6A ignition
Under drive pulleys
LT1 camshaft
Coming soon:
1.6 roller rockers
Torquer heads
Edelbrock TBI/intake

Audio
Sony Xplod CDX-M610 head unit
Pioneer 2-way 4x6 front speakers
Pioneer 3-way 6x9 rear speakers
12 inch Pioneer VCCS PRO subwoofer
QLogic sealed box
Kicker ZR360 amplifier
Lightning Audio 1 farad capacitor
Other
Macewen White Faced Gauges/Shift overlay
A-pillar gauges (Phantom oil pressure, Air/Fuel)
180* thermostat
Window Tint
Under car neons (green)

 

Hey, my LO3 (granted the trannys whipped and theres 120K on the car) got beat by a Neon at the 1/4 mile track, but it was a 5 speed RT neon. Him and my freind with a cavalier were running 16.2's and i ran a 16.8 with a hot motor (96 miles up there and no chance to cool down). Its gota 16.5 run in it i swear, but i need more practice. Still, even then those damn 4cyl cars. If it was a 5 speed though this would be a whole nother story!

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88 Camaro (not an RS, or an IROC, justa camaro.)
305TBI/700R4/2.73
14" Open Element and Flowmaster 80 seires

Next up: headers and gears

 

someone probably said this, but i didn't see. anyways, those integras have to run on at least 91 (or 92) Octane. suprised me too!



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88' GTA 350 MODS---> air foil, K&N, Shift Kit, 180* therm, TB bypass

 

he would have tore you apart

 

pimp, who are you talking to? anyway. Since I've posted this ive been looking in mags and such... I've noticed the some of the imports are using TBI also... And it's not that we have bad cars. Its that we have bad combinations becuase of the times that our cars were built. Plus our weight..


For some reason I dont see the down side to having TBI. Yes theres carb and yes theres TPI... but theres also drag cars with TBI... Just depending on every factor of the opposing car will tbi be better or worse.

 

Maybe if you took some of the stereo equipment out of your car you could beat him?

Just kiddin'

With the few mods listed above by Bahamut and others you should be able to wipe the pavement with rice. And if those don't work you can always strap a big blue "water bottle" (<-that's what you tell them it is) in the trunk

Good Luck

 

A stock CRX ????



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1988 Sport Coupe 305 TBI
K&N
Flowmaster exhaust


Daily driver:
1988 K1500 5.7 4x4 shortbed flowmaster cat-back gutted cat.
AOL: RyanNH84

 

Those damn CRX's make me feel claustophobic(is that how you spell it?) They're small and light which makes them zippy. I've beaten quite a few of them at any speed though. Check out my ride in the Reader's ride section.
https://www.thirdgen.org/rides/index...ew&rideid=4860

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92' RS Camaro TBI
Quickest 1/4: 14.6 @ 96mph w/ no NOS
Quickest 60': 1.9 sec




[This message has been edited by pwdbychevy (edited August 09, 2001).]

 

Don't know if it was stock or not... Didn't sound stock.. faster it went the louder it got with higher pitched sound...


My car wasn't in the best condition but thats besides the point

I still lost

[This message has been edited by 92Camaro305TBI (edited August 09, 2001).]