Horsepower/Torque/MPG of TBI vs. TPI?
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Re: Horsepower/Torque/MPG of TBI vs. TPI?
It varies over the years. Go to the thirdgen index page and use the camaro/firebird tech data links in the left navigation bar and it'll list it all.
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Re: Horsepower/Torque/MPG of TBI vs. TPI?
that's right but it won't give you any MPG ratings. you could still use http://fueleconomy.gov/ which i believe will show you the official mpg-rating of any car, but mind you, of course milage will also depend on the car's options and transmission..
Re: Horsepower/Torque/MPG of TBI vs. TPI?
Thanks for the links guys. I found all of the HP/TQ ratings for the TPI/TBI 305 and TPI 350 but nothing on a TBI 350 (I'm assuming that was never an offered option). MPG ratings for the TPI 305/350 are pretty close, ranging from 15 mpg city and 22-24mpg hwy.....there was no listing for TBI systems though.
I'm still on the fence with this project, I have a 327ci from a 67 Camaro and I'm looking to upgrade to EFI for better mpg and performance......but can't decide on TBI or TPI.
Wm
I'm still on the fence with this project, I have a 327ci from a 67 Camaro and I'm looking to upgrade to EFI for better mpg and performance......but can't decide on TBI or TPI.
Wm
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Re: Horsepower/Torque/MPG of TBI vs. TPI?
Thanks for the links guys. I found all of the HP/TQ ratings for the TPI/TBI 305 and TPI 350 but nothing on a TBI 350 (I'm assuming that was never an offered option). MPG ratings for the TPI 305/350 are pretty close, ranging from 15 mpg city and 22-24mpg hwy.....there was no listing for TBI systems though.
I'm still on the fence with this project, I have a 327ci from a 67 Camaro and I'm looking to upgrade to EFI for better mpg and performance......but can't decide on TBI or TPI.
Wm
I'm still on the fence with this project, I have a 327ci from a 67 Camaro and I'm looking to upgrade to EFI for better mpg and performance......but can't decide on TBI or TPI.
Wm
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From: Austria
Car: 84 TA / 89 Formula
Engine: LS1 / L03
Transmission: T56 / 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73 / 3.27
Re: Horsepower/Torque/MPG of TBI vs. TPI?
imho a decision whether to go tpi or tbi shouldn't take MPG into the equation, as this is more a matter of how radical your specific engine is built, where and how peaky the power band is, what ratio transmission and rear gears you are using, etc...
if you are starting from scratch it's probably a matter of funds as tpi would run you quite a lot more imho, even more so if you need modifications to accomodate the airflow for a higher performance engine.
if you are starting from scratch it's probably a matter of funds as tpi would run you quite a lot more imho, even more so if you need modifications to accomodate the airflow for a higher performance engine.
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Re: Horsepower/Torque/MPG of TBI vs. TPI?
just for info. , a 305 TBI that is well tuned gets great hwy.mileage . i have got as high as 29.43 mpg. on the hwy. . i am not the only one , many others have done as well .
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Re: Horsepower/Torque/MPG of TBI vs. TPI?
imho a decision whether to go tpi or tbi shouldn't take MPG into the equation, as this is more a matter of how radical your specific engine is built, where and how peaky the power band is, what ratio transmission and rear gears you are using, etc...
if you are starting from scratch it's probably a matter of funds as tpi would run you quite a lot more imho, even more so if you need modifications to accomodate the airflow for a higher performance engine.
if you are starting from scratch it's probably a matter of funds as tpi would run you quite a lot more imho, even more so if you need modifications to accomodate the airflow for a higher performance engine.
Wm
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Re: Horsepower/Torque/MPG of TBI vs. TPI?
id buy a conversion kit. an edelbrock pro flow, or holley setup. and if i chose between the two id take the tpi.
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Car: 1988 SC Convertible
Engine: LT-1
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23 posi w/PBR's
Re: Horsepower/Torque/MPG of TBI vs. TPI?
You can get complete TBI setups at a junk yard all day long fairly cheap. The TBI 350 was an option in trucks, and they made a whole lot of them.
As far as mileage goes here's what I've personally recorded with different combos in the same car:
305 TBI/700R4/2.73--24-26 MPG
305 TBI/T-5/2.73--28-30 MPG
305 TBI/T-5/3.27--23-25 MPG
355 TBI/T-5/3.27--21-23 MPG
These numbers are all mixed driving. I drive the car 70 miles round trip every day to work and back. Out of the 70 miles a day about 25 is in the city.
As far as mileage goes here's what I've personally recorded with different combos in the same car:
305 TBI/700R4/2.73--24-26 MPG
305 TBI/T-5/2.73--28-30 MPG
305 TBI/T-5/3.27--23-25 MPG
355 TBI/T-5/3.27--21-23 MPG
These numbers are all mixed driving. I drive the car 70 miles round trip every day to work and back. Out of the 70 miles a day about 25 is in the city.
Re: Horsepower/Torque/MPG of TBI vs. TPI?
Thanks for the data FYRCHKN, those are some pretty impressive numbers. Since I'm putting this system on a 327 I'll wind up looking for the setup from a 350.....hopefully I can scrounge one up. lol
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: 700R4
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Re: Horsepower/Torque/MPG of TBI vs. TPI?
i used to get bout 18`city and 30 on the hwy with my LO3 and 700R4...with open 2.73 on 87 octane
now ive swaped to a LSD 3.23, advanced timing to 8* running on 93,so still unsure on its milage yet.
now ive swaped to a LSD 3.23, advanced timing to 8* running on 93,so still unsure on its milage yet.
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